Reading v Hard to Beat Aston Villa Post Match Thread.

[john e]

can't believe people calling us boring, you do know we are the top goalscorers in the league since Smith joined

nothing to worry about we just need to chill

we are playing the exact same players every week in the exact same way because apparently we have no other options

( just for those wondering if I'm being sarcastic yes I fucking am )

[mr underhill]

I think it's time to be honest about this - whilst the team isn't brilliant, it isn't that bad and can play very well when it wants to.  Dean can be very effective as a coach, but hasn't been since we got robbed at Albion.  Jack and Axel ( to a much lesser extent) are missed, but our decline isn't just down to that. Something is still wrong at Villa. I'm going get my head blown off for this but if we miss out by some margin  on the top six, Dean won't survive.

[AlexAlexCropley]

No it's your hearing and your imagination that's the issue. The crowd turning, what utter bollocks.

Don't misquote. I said the crowd losing faith
If you couldn't sense it today and the last few matches then you're blind.

[john e]

I think it's time to be honest about this - whilst the team isn't brilliant, it isn't that bad and can play very well when it wants to.  Dean can be very effective as a coach, but hasn't been since we got robbed at Albion.  Jack and Axel ( to a much lesser extent) are missed, but our decline isn't just down to that. Something is still wrong at Villa. I'm going get my head blown off for this but if we miss out by some margin  on the top six, Dean won't survive.

He'l survive if it looks like we are going somewhere and have a plan that looks like it's worth building on

at the moment we are going nowhere and if that stays the same till the end of the season you will be right he won't survive

[Villafirst]

I think it's time to be honest about this - whilst the team isn't brilliant, it isn't that bad and can play very well when it wants to.  Dean can be very effective as a coach, but hasn't been since we got robbed at Albion.  Jack and Axel ( to a much lesser extent) are missed, but our decline isn't just down to that. Something is still wrong at Villa. I'm going get my head blown off for this but if we miss out by some margin  on the top six, Dean won't survive.

That's ridiculous. DS needs a least 2 more windows to mould his team. It doesn't happen overnight!

[dave.woodhall]

Please talk about the match not each other.

[Ads]

No it's your hearing and your imagination that's the issue. The crowd turning, what utter bollocks.

Don't misquote. I said the crowd losing faith
If you couldn't sense it today and the last few matches then you're blind.

Perhaps we have different ways of measuring an intangible element. Lots of support for the team today, no boos, no evidence of the white flag from those that went.

[Clampy]

I said yesterday that people need to chill and I think they do. OK, we've lost lost our way a little from when Smith first came in but what do we do? Show some patience or make another change? I'll go for the former.

[sickbeggar]

I said yesterday that people need to chill and I think they do. OK, we've lost lost our way a little from when Smith first came in but what do we do? Show some patience or make another change? I'll go for the former.

Amen to that. We weren't great today but if we'd taken one of those chances we normally bury we'd have walked off with a 3 point smash 'n grab.

[PaulWinch again]

I said yesterday that people need to chill and I think they do. OK, we've lost lost our way a little from when Smith first came in but what do we do? Show some patience or make another change? I'll go for the former.

Clearly there should be patience, but Smith needs to start getting us playing better.

[hilts_coolerking]

I said yesterday that people need to chill and I think they do. OK, we've lost lost our way a little from when Smith first came in but what do we do? Show some patience or make another change? I'll go for the former.

Whether you're chilled or not 3 wins from 12 is a cause for concern.  Not panic, but concern.

[Ads]

I said yesterday that people need to chill and I think they do. OK, we've lost lost our way a little from when Smith first came in but what do we do? Show some patience or make another change? I'll go for the former.

Whether you're chilled or not 3 wins from 12 is a cause for concern.  Not panic, but concern.

I think if we'd have had these two centre halves all.season, Bruce would still be in a job.

[hilts_coolerking]

I think if we'd have had these two centre halves all.season, Bruce would still be in a job.

It's an interesting point: the deficiencies in the squad were the same for Bruce as they are for Smith.  The difference being Bruce was responsible for them whereas Smith is trying to address them.

I can't remember what Bruce's record was this season before he got the poke but it can't be that different to Smith's.

[Toronto Villa]

I said yesterday that people need to chill and I think they do. OK, we've lost lost our way a little from when Smith first came in but what do we do? Show some patience or make another change? I'll go for the former.

Whether you're chilled or not 3 wins from 12 is a cause for concern.  Not panic, but concern.

Agreed. I know Smith is trying to remain positive and spin it as 1 defeat in whatever it is. But if he keeps that up he’ll start to sound like Bruce. What was great when he came in is that it felt very much as if he saw the same things we did. But his constant picking of Whelan as an an example is bewildering. A player who offers literally nothing is now essentially one of the first names on the team sheet if fit.

The job is a massive one and I have no doubt his heart is absolutely in the right place. But in the end and he knows this he will be judged like all other managers on his results. Right now irrespective of whatever challenges he’s got it makes not good enough.

[sickbeggar]

I said yesterday that people need to chill and I think they do. OK, we've lost lost our way a little from when Smith first came in but what do we do? Show some patience or make another change? I'll go for the former.

Whether you're chilled or not 3 wins from 12 is a cause for concern.  Not panic, but concern.

Bruce managed 0 wins in 9 in his first few months. I don't remember this level of concern....