Quote from: Tony Daleys Shorts on January 16, 2025, 06:54:25 PMQuote from: VillaTim on January 16, 2025, 06:34:27 PMThe point being made is , Pau Torres passing this season has been nothing special and that's his main strength as we know his defensive game is quite average .His pass through to Duran for the goal versus Bayern will live long in our Villa memories.Well not VillaTim's obviously.
Quote from: VillaTim on January 16, 2025, 06:34:27 PMThe point being made is , Pau Torres passing this season has been nothing special and that's his main strength as we know his defensive game is quite average .His pass through to Duran for the goal versus Bayern will live long in our Villa memories.
The point being made is , Pau Torres passing this season has been nothing special and that's his main strength as we know his defensive game is quite average .
Quote from: Toronto Villa on January 16, 2025, 09:40:33 PMLet me say I fucking love Tyrone Mings. Not just as a man outside of the game. But he embodies everything it is to be a Villa player. He’s not the best we’ve ever had. Probably not even in the top 10 CBs. But what he gives us 100% effort every single game. He’s come back from a massive injury thrown into more games than I’m sure the manager wanted but is slowly giving us that assurance and dependability at the back we really needed. He’s never going to be Pau. Pau is never going to be Tyrone. They are just different and valuable in their own way. But Ty’s attitude is magnificent and he makes us better as a club.Well said, he’s a great man. I’m been following the Villa since 1978 and not sure I can think of 10 better actually … Evans, McGrath, for sure. Maybe Laursen and Mellberg. Southgate and Ugo on a par
Let me say I fucking love Tyrone Mings. Not just as a man outside of the game. But he embodies everything it is to be a Villa player. He’s not the best we’ve ever had. Probably not even in the top 10 CBs. But what he gives us 100% effort every single game. He’s come back from a massive injury thrown into more games than I’m sure the manager wanted but is slowly giving us that assurance and dependability at the back we really needed. He’s never going to be Pau. Pau is never going to be Tyrone. They are just different and valuable in their own way. But Ty’s attitude is magnificent and he makes us better as a club.
Quote from: VillaTim on January 16, 2025, 08:11:46 PMAnyway glad we won , delighted we got a clean sheet, glad Konsa looked his old self with a stong partner at the back. Doubt we'd be saying this is Torres was in there .Its boring. You’re banging on about Torres constantly. I love Mings for everything he’s done for us and long may it continue, but lets look at a few facts here. Torres got injured early on against Brighton, so Mings had most of that game, Leicester, West Ham and last night. Last night is the only game the defence has looked a lot tighter, against a really poor Everton side. To give Mings his due he’s had ages out and has done brilliantly to get back, but you keep banging the same boring anti Torres drum, like a dull bloody ache. Go back and look at Durans goal against Bayern and tell us which centre back in the whole league makes that pass between two sets of Bayern lines. This is the kind of passing Torres has been making for the whole time he’s been here.
Anyway glad we won , delighted we got a clean sheet, glad Konsa looked his old self with a stong partner at the back. Doubt we'd be saying this is Torres was in there .
In the first half of last season Pau played the majority of games didn’t he? Genuine question, but that’s what I remember. Kamara did as well and as far as I can see out of 19 league games we conceded more than 1 five times. So if we’re basing stuff on conceding 1 goal or less the defensive system appears to have been able to function with Pau in it.
Listening to Unai’s pre match presser v Arsenal, he seems to be suggesting Ty has struggled to get back up to the required levels, and not physically?
Quote from: andyh on January 17, 2025, 03:22:53 PMListening to Unai’s pre match presser v Arsenal, he seems to be suggesting Ty has struggled to get back up to the required levels, and not physically?You got that from what Unai said because all I took from it was all positives.
“It’s fantastic how he is progressively helping the team; his attitude, his commitment with the club.“He struggled a lot last year at the beginning of the season; he was not feeling 100% to help the team. When the injury came to Pau Torres, it was his moment.“He is really helping the team, helping us to play with his capacity and show again his skill and potential with us like he did before he was getting injured.“Now, playing a lot of matches in a row, we have to try to be careful and protect him. Hopefully tomorrow he can feel recovered 100% and playing 90 minutes like he has played in the last matches.“I’m very happy with how he is with his attitude, his commitment. He’s a leader for other players as well and he’s very important in different directions with the players in the squad, on the field and the message we want to send to the players about how we want to be demanding in our new way here in Aston Villa.”
Well yeah but doesn’t speak to the defensive ineptitude that gets pointed at Pau and I haven’t compared but I suspect our attacking play functioned really well in that time - so there is that point around the overall effectiveness of the team as a whole.