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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2018, 09:54:15 PM »
Oh my, I hadn't realised that Bent relegated them. Fucking hell!

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2018, 10:09:27 PM »
I found myself thinking that anyone who thinks we are fickle should watch that documentary.

I know they've not had the best of times in recent years, but at the drop of a hat, they're all doing that fist shakig, booing, walking out thing.

I also found myself wondering how come they report such good attendances as the ground looked near empty in most of the sequences shown in matches.

Finally, found myself thinking what a good player Lewis Grabban is.

I thought that about the F word yesterday.
I've no doubt most of that was down to editing, and those scenes reminded me of our match threads.

Jonny Williams seems too nice to be a footballer, too.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2018, 10:42:19 PM »
I thought Coleman, Symonds and the CEO came across very well, especially given the circumstances they found themselves in.

I’m only halfway through at the mo, but I’m cynical about the CEO. He has obviously allowed cameras in for unprecedented access and, as a result, the documentary is portraying him favourably. The stick Grayson got, was magnified imo to back his decision to sack him. Also, he isn’t shy to slip in the lack of investment from Ellis Short. I’m not saying Grayson or Short were not vilified, of course they were / are, but I think the documentary is elevating Martin Bain to position of good guy in return for the access.

Having said that, it is an excellent documentary and what a season to focus on! They must have thought at the outset it would be following the progress of a successful team as they got promoted.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2018, 02:08:19 AM »
Yeah, that CEO came across as a bit slick to me.

The scenes with him bombing about in a car felt a bit like an Audi advert.

The premise of this (or the idea that was put to the club) was to chart their journey back to the top flight. Seems like that's what he envisaged as well. Seemed quite comfortable playing up to the camera.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2018, 04:27:19 PM »
As much as Xia fucked it up in the end at least we didn’t do a Sunderland. There are massive similarities between us and where we could have ended up. And at no point however bad it got did we ever see mass walk outs. Mind you the funniest walk out was when a Tim Nice But Dim Villa side put the boot to Poyet.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2018, 04:37:25 PM »
We had mass walk-outs on a regular basis during our relegation season. I remember the "out the door on 74" campaign and moaning because I didn't want to have to stay that long.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2018, 03:06:55 PM »
And when we didn't have mass walkouts we hurled beachballs onto the pitch......cringe.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2018, 05:31:47 PM »
That was funny. Nice and self-deprecating, and it annoyed the Geordies.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2018, 11:16:32 PM »
What I always find amazing is how much optimism there is everywhere at the start of the season. This is a team that went down again without a fight yet you have Cattermole talking about winning it all. I’m sure it wouldn’t be any different if they did one on us at the start of last season. Football can be so elating and uplifting with soul crushing just around the corner at all times.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2018, 02:19:41 AM »
Entertaining show thus far. Bain comes across a bit David Brent esque I must say, complaining about mercenaries with his rolex watches, range rover and 1.2m salary. Grabban comes across as a right mercenary too, whinging about being taken off before leaving. Documentary does nothing for the future career prospects of Grayson or Coleman either it must be said. Rodwell, their Micah. We really missed out on dumping McCormack on them.

Their story mirrors ours in a way, circling the relegation drain for a number of years, chronic mismanagement at board level, absentee American owner, big fan base, collection of waifs and strays on the playing staff (Nyland would have been an improvement on their keepers).

If Lerner had stayed that would have been us, without doubt.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2019, 04:27:21 PM »
I've watched the first 5 episodes so far.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2019, 09:02:24 AM »
There are some uncomfortable similarities.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2019, 09:06:47 AM »
Finished watching all the episodes now.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2019, 06:31:34 PM »
There are some uncomfortable similarities.

loads. Had Lerner remained he'd have been our Ellis Short as we sunk without trace into League One. Rodwell is their Richards. Darron Gibson...well we've had a few of those. Shit goalkeeping - check. Shit defending - check. Players getting injured when we need them most - check, money spunked away on complete shit - lots of checks.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die Documentary’
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2019, 06:51:05 PM »
For all of Steve Bruce’s faults he stopped us from being like Sunderland.

 


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