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Offline Villa Lew

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Ken McNaught and the PFA
« on: November 22, 2018, 10:49:55 AM »
Article in todays paper on Ken McNaught's experience with the PFA. I know it  comes from a certain right wing paper, which is not exactly popular with a lot of H&Vs, so if someone could paste it I would be grateful.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6415705/I-needed-PFA-spend-40k-save-life-refused-help.html

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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2018, 11:57:11 AM »
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I needed PFA to spend £40k to save my life... but they refused to help with my serious heart condition
My recent personal experience of the PFA has been one of total neglect
I approached them in 2014 when I was diagnosed with a serious heart condition
The players union then flatly refused to assist paying for my surgery

By KEN MCNAUGHT FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 22:30, 21 November 2018 | UPDATED: 00:09, 22 November 2018

I was a member of the PFA from my teenage years. In those days it was an annual fee, taken out of your wages, plus they always got a share of any transfer fees.

It was advertised that your membership raised the benevolent fund and once your playing days were over you were covered. But my recent experience of the PFA has been one of total neglect.

I approached them in 2015 when I was diagnosed with a serious heart condition. My aortic root needed replacing. Initially I asked the PFA for assistance on getting an MRI scan done privately as the NHS wait was a number of months. The cost was £1,050 but the PFA were very reluctant. In the end after numerous phone calls to chase they agreed and I had it done in the April, rather than the July. Results revealed I needed an operation.

But then there was an enormous wait and I found out it was because the PFA hadn't paid the bill. Eventually they did but it meant that rather than speeding up the process it had slowed down.

The PFA then flatly refused to assist on my surgery. My wife Maureen worked as a medical receptionist so she found out an estimate of £37,500, but when I told the PFA representative he went cold, saying, 'We can't afford those costs, we can cover knee and hip operations.' I said, 'You're talking about somebody's life here.'

In the end my cardiologist suggested I give up the PFA side of things because I was well down the road on the NHS waiting list. Eventually, after having four postponements, I went under the knife in February 2016. It had been an long process of a year and I felt like I was stepping on eggshells the whole time. The specialist had told me that my condition would lead to an embolism, which is when your aneurysm bursts and your body fills with blood. I'd be dead before I hit the floor.

I was always terrified at night, waking at two or three o'clock just to see if I was still alive. It's constantly on your mind and any pain in your chest you immediately think, what's that?

In all that period the PFA knew my problem, but it was always a case of me having to phone them seeking advice. I never received one phone call from any of them in regards to assistance.

It wasn't purely financial help I was looking for. I remember one time I spoke to Gordon Taylor's right-hand man and I burst into tears because of the effect it was having on my family. All I wanted was somebody who knew how getting a private operation worked and could take all that pressure away. Somebody to pick up the phone, speak to the surgeons, organise.

There were long waits and three cancellations of operations. Once I was actually in hospital overnight, my chest shaved at five o'clock in the morning, as prep, only for the registrar to say, 'We can't take you we've had a transplant fly in.' The NHS were brilliant though, I've only got praise, what with all their financial problems. But it was galling that the PFA were sitting on huge amounts of money and couldn't help with private care. That £2million Lowry painting, how much is it worth now? But to spend £40,000 on an ex-player, saving his life, what benefit do they get? They are out of pocket, that's the way they look at it.

I'm brand new, now. The NHS surgeon and cardiologist are very pleased. They managed to save the aortic root but they had to put a graft into the aortic valve. There were complications, though. The operation was supposed to last four-and-a-half hours and it lasted eight-and-a-half. The cardiologist has since suggested to me I was less than a week away from it bursting.

Doctors don't know if football was a factor in my heart condition, it could be genetic. I can remember training at Everton, though. In those days we were fitness-tested twice a season and you had an endurance test where you ran across the gym, 40 yards there-back, there-back, and they crudely took your pulse. You weren't allowed to stop until it went over 200 beats per minute. If your pulse gets anywhere near that rate nowadays - because they are hooked up to GPS - they are told to stop.

I've heard stories that if you do that kind of exercise at a young age it exaggerates any deficiencies in your heart. It needs to be proven through research. As we have seen with dementia the PFA do not lead the way. You would think instead of being reactive they would be proactive.

I'm not looking for any sympathy. I'm just telling my own experience. I can't change anything, but maybe my story will mean it won't happen to someone else in the future.

 
Ken McNaught was talking to Laurie Whitwell

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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2018, 12:15:55 PM »
Gut wrenching.
You certainly find out who your freinds are when you really need them.

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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2018, 02:55:39 PM »
If the PFA with all the money they have sloshing around cannot help a former player in that situation they aren't fit for purpose.


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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2018, 04:35:06 PM »
Trying to be neutral here - a life threatening heart condition is a job for the the NHS and if it was that urgent then he would have been fast tracked into surgery - my experience with a number of friends over the years. Private health is okay for hip or knee surgery etc but not for something like this.

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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2018, 05:28:08 PM »
There was an article in the same paper yesterday of Jlloyd Samuels partner who went to the PFA after he passed away as he only had 2k left in his account and she couldn't afford the funeral costs. She asked for 70k to help with the upkeep of their family for life.
They offered 11k as they couldn't afford any more, don't know if she needs it but I'm sure Gordon Taylor doesn't need 2.2 million a year.

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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2018, 05:31:52 PM »
The PFA is Gordon Taylors private piggy bank, how the hell does he get paid such a huge amount of money?

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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2018, 07:19:04 PM »
You would have thought with the increasing wages and transfer fees (assuming the PFA is still funded in the same way) that the money available to support the older generation of players who did not earn the vast sums that they do now, would be increasing with a decreasing number of players needing support. Unlike state pensions that are going in the opposite direction.

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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2018, 08:42:36 PM »
There was an article in the same paper yesterday of Jlloyd Samuels partner who went to the PFA after he passed away as he only had 2k left in his account and she couldn't afford the funeral costs. She asked for 70k to help with the upkeep of their family for life.
They offered 11k as they couldn't afford any more, don't know if she needs it but I'm sure Gordon Taylor doesn't need 2.2 million a year.

Without being too disrespectful, if a player who was on Premier League wages for over ten years died skint it's not the PFA's fault.

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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2018, 02:34:52 AM »
the pfa are useless as a disabled ex soldier and professional footballer i have to go cap in hand to ssafa and the royal british legion even though i played for aldershot, tranmere rovers,stockport county and port vale. If you did'nt play in the sky era at premiere league or championship level they don't care or want to know.

We had deductions from pay just like Ken.

some of us never got big money, I played with Guy Whitingham in the british army team and he is struggling at the moment. they don't care a jot.

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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2018, 08:04:17 AM »
Fat cats at the top springs to mind

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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2018, 02:26:43 PM »
  But it's ok Gordon Taylor barely survives on £3m a year.

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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2018, 03:37:55 PM »
A story like that really brings home to me how much I wish there was no such thing as private medicine.

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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2018, 04:32:56 PM »
What do the PFA actually do with all their money if it is not to help ex-players?

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Re: Ken McNaught and the PFA
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2018, 07:14:04 PM »
Wasn't Dalian seeking help from the PFA for health-issues soon before his dreadful death?

 


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