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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13515 on: June 01, 2021, 04:57:15 PM »
Nuno's an excellent manager and one poor season where the club has sold Jota and Doherty and he's lost his most influential player to injury shouldn't take away from what he has achieved.

I'm not saying I'd swap him for Smith and yes he does play counter attacking football, but I'm amazed how quickly people are writing off a manager who would have been in the mix for any of the big jobs 12 months ago.   

Indeed. I was shocked The Plastics never went for him last summer, promotion champions in his first season and followed by two 7th place finishes at a club like Wolves. Fortunately they stuck with Ole.

I think they went through a phase of avoiding dealing with Mendes. Which is understandable given that he regularly slags them off in the press.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13516 on: June 01, 2021, 05:12:34 PM »
Feel a bit bad for Everton. Ancelotti's arrival had them buoyant for the first time in years and it seemed that he was committed to them.

When your ex is wealthy, hot and flutters their eyelashes years after dumping you, your eyebrows must raise in surprise. Or in Carlo's case, rise to giddy new heights.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13517 on: June 01, 2021, 06:02:10 PM »
Surely his ex is broke, having racked up massive credit card bills, hates her neighbours and wants to move out of the area to somewhere more her type even though she can’t afford it. Her face has caked on make up from years of plastic surgery. And yeh sure Carlo will come back in to her life, and she will give him a gummer on the sofa once in blue moon while watching late night soap operas, but eventually she will fuck the pool boy like last time and dump him.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13518 on: June 01, 2021, 06:15:27 PM »
When you put it like that...poor Carlo. Here's to a gummer-summer for him at least!

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13519 on: June 02, 2021, 11:35:33 AM »
A lot of fans wanted us to appoint a manager like Ancelotti but this is what can happen. A Real Madrid bat their eye lids at him and he's off. Now Everton are back to the drawing board. They need to make the right appointment and one that won't want to rip everything up they've done there. Who won't look at all the work their recruitment department has done during the year and want to do something very different.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13520 on: June 02, 2021, 12:06:47 PM »
Whilst we're talking about Everton, here's a reminder of what it can cost to come 10th with a supposedly world class manager at the helm...

20/21
Godfrey - £24.75m
Allan    - £22.50m
Doucouré   - £19.89m
Rodrigues - free but fucking massive wages

19/20
Alex Iwobi   - £27.36m
Moise Kean - £24.75m
Gbamin - £22.50m
André Gomes - £22.50m
Fabian Delph - £8.55m

18/19
Richarlison - £35.28m
Yerry Mina - £27.23m
Lucas Digne - £18.18m

17/18
Gylfi Sigurdsson    - £44.46m
Michael Keane - £25.65m
Jordan Pickford - £25.65m
Davy Klaassen - £24.30m
Cenk Tosun - £20.25m
Theo Walcott - £20.25m
Nikola Vlasic - £9.72m

16/17
Yannick Bolasie - £26.01m
Morgan Schneiderlin - £20.70m
Ashley Williams - £12.60m
Ademola Lookman - £7.92m
Idrissa Gueye - £7.65m

Thats c £525m over 5 years.

And yes, that really is over 27m for Iwobi.

They recouped big money for Lukaku, Stones etc, but even so the siums are eye watering.


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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13521 on: June 02, 2021, 12:13:28 PM »
A few good signings in there - Digne I think is a really good player but in general, wow, that's an impressive way to waste 500m.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13522 on: June 02, 2021, 12:13:40 PM »
Whilst we're talking about Everton, here's a reminder of what it can cost to come 10th with a supposedly world class manager at the helm...

20/21
Godfrey - £24.75m
Allan    - £22.50m
Doucouré   - £19.89m
Rodrigues - free but fucking massive wages

19/20
Alex Iwobi   - £27.36m
Moise Kean - £24.75m
Gbamin - £22.50m
André Gomes - £22.50m
Fabian Delph - £8.55m

18/19
Richarlison - £35.28m
Yerry Mina - £27.23m
Lucas Digne - £18.18m

17/18
Gylfi Sigurdsson    - £44.46m
Michael Keane - £25.65m
Jordan Pickford - £25.65m
Davy Klaassen - £24.30m
Cenk Tosun - £20.25m
Theo Walcott - £20.25m
Nikola Vlasic - £9.72m

16/17
Yannick Bolasie - £26.01m
Morgan Schneiderlin - £20.70m
Ashley Williams - £12.60m
Ademola Lookman - £7.92m
Idrissa Gueye - £7.65m

Thats c £525m over 5 years.

And yes, that really is over 27m for Iwobi.

They recouped big money for Lukaku, Stones etc, but even so the siums are eye watering.

Getting someone like Grealish... that’s the hard part. But if you look at our similar level of recruitment over the last couple of years, it’s still better. They haven’t bought  as well as us with Emi, Konsa, Mings, Cash, Targett and Watkins IMO. .

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13523 on: June 02, 2021, 12:56:10 PM »
i'd love it if Rafa goes there. Scenes!!

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13524 on: June 02, 2021, 12:59:08 PM »
Some of those numbers look a bit off. Richarlison from Watford was £40m rising to close to £50m. Iwobi was £40m from Arsenal. Sigurdson was £45m. Where did you get those from Chris?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13525 on: June 02, 2021, 01:02:28 PM »
Some of those numbers look a bit off. Richarlison from Watford was £40m rising to close to £50m. Iwobi was £40m from Arsenal. Sigurdson was £45m. Where did you get those from Chris?

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-everton/alletransfers/verein/29

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13526 on: June 02, 2021, 01:09:06 PM »
Some of those numbers look a bit off. Richarlison from Watford was £40m rising to close to £50m. Iwobi was £40m from Arsenal. Sigurdson was £45m. Where did you get those from Chris?

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-everton/alletransfers/verein/29

Not that it matters as the numbers still make your eyes bleed. Here are some of the articles at the time.

Richarlison - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44946473
Iwobi (35, not 40m) - https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11780460/alex-iwobi-everton-sign-midfielder-from-arsenal
Sigurdsson - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/08/16/gylfi-sigurdsson-joins-everton-45m-deal/

Like I said either way bonkers what they’ve spent

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13527 on: June 02, 2021, 01:12:12 PM »
A few good signings in there - Digne I think is a really good player but in general, wow, that's an impressive way to waste 500m.
A few Turkeys as well.
Thats exactly the strategy that we need to avoid, filling up the squad with average players.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13528 on: June 02, 2021, 01:20:55 PM »
Over £26m spent on Yannick Bolasie plus his £3.9m a year wage (5 year contract) spent mainly on loan at other clubs. Eyewatering

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13529 on: June 02, 2021, 01:27:50 PM »
Some of those numbers look a bit off. Richarlison from Watford was £40m rising to close to £50m. Iwobi was £40m from Arsenal. Sigurdson was £45m. Where did you get those from Chris?

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-everton/alletransfers/verein/29

Not that it matters as the numbers still make your eyes bleed. Here are some of the articles at the time.

Richarlison - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44946473
Iwobi (35, not 40m) - https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11780460/alex-iwobi-everton-sign-midfielder-from-arsenal
Sigurdsson - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/08/16/gylfi-sigurdsson-joins-everton-45m-deal/

Like I said either way bonkers what they’ve spent
I'm sure you're right, some of the figures sounded low to me, but I didn't feel like individually researching them and I think that website is reasonably well regarded?  Maybe it excludes add ons? 

 


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