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Offline rougegorge

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9390 on: July 12, 2020, 07:24:37 PM »
Smith got lucky with the Hause withdrawal.
My thoughts as well!

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9391 on: July 12, 2020, 07:25:47 PM »
I don't mind Treseguet starting. He was unlucky not to score the other night although that's the only thing he did.

You don't mind that a player had one shot and contributed absolutely nothing else for 90 minutes?

Some posts don't age well.
And if anyone's going to drag them up, it'll be you.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9392 on: July 12, 2020, 07:30:27 PM »
We’re still in the position of having to win a minimum of two of our last three games.  I wouldn’t say ‘happy day’s are here again’ because Trezeguet decides to turn up for once.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9393 on: July 12, 2020, 07:31:48 PM »
I don't mind Treseguet starting. He was unlucky not to score the other night although that's the only thing he did.

You don't mind that a player had one shot and contributed absolutely nothing else for 90 minutes?

Some posts don't age well.
And if anyone's going to drag them up, it'll be you.

And if anyone's going to defend it.... Etc etc.

He's not been brilliant for us, if only he'd nailed that chance the other night. But this is at least a step in the right direction.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9394 on: July 12, 2020, 07:35:17 PM »
I don't mind Treseguet starting. He was unlucky not to score the other night although that's the only thing he did.

You don't mind that a player had one shot and contributed absolutely nothing else for 90 minutes?

Some posts don't age well.
And if anyone's going to drag them up, it'll be you.

And if anyone's going to defend it.... Etc etc.

He's not been brilliant for us, if only he'd nailed that chance the other night. But this is at least a step in the right direction.
I'm not defending it etc.  We've all posted stuff on here that later turned out to be foolish.  I certainly have, you have, Clampy has.  Do we really want to go down that route?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9395 on: July 12, 2020, 07:37:06 PM »
One-upmanship is nothing new on here.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9396 on: July 12, 2020, 07:38:13 PM »
One-upmanship is nothing new on here.

if you don't like it nobody's making you stay.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9397 on: July 12, 2020, 08:03:14 PM »
Well I’ve cited Dean being a streak manager as being negative, let’s hope he goes on a 4 match winning streak now!

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9398 on: July 12, 2020, 08:12:18 PM »
One-upmanship is nothing new on here.

if you don't like it nobody's making you stay.

But it would be such a shame to miss out on your classic rejoinders, Dave

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9399 on: July 13, 2020, 11:41:48 AM »

I'm not defending it etc.  We've all posted stuff on here that later turned out to be foolish.  I certainly have, you have, Clampy has.  Do we really want to go down that route?

We all say stuff in the heat of the moment. Of course I've got things wrong. I defend managers longer than most on here, with some, I'm sure I've been wrong, others I'm not so sure.

What I do know is that we need some stability, we need to see a project through. We were always likely to be hovering around the lower reaches of the table this season, and our manager was bound to make mistakes, as were the players. Unfortunately, the players have made errors at crucial times and cost us a lot of points. I happen to think that Smith shouldn't lose his job over it.

We've been in a situation with a lot of inexperience at the same time and that doesn't help. I really thought we'd have done better than we have coming back in this scenario, but it hasn't worked out like that.

In my view, even if we go down, I think Smith should stay; there are too many mitigating circumstances to make him lose his job.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9400 on: July 13, 2020, 12:35:18 PM »

I'm not defending it etc.  We've all posted stuff on here that later turned out to be foolish.  I certainly have, you have, Clampy has.  Do we really want to go down that route?

We all say stuff in the heat of the moment. Of course I've got things wrong. I defend managers longer than most on here, with some, I'm sure I've been wrong, others I'm not so sure.

What I do know is that we need some stability, we need to see a project through. We were always likely to be hovering around the lower reaches of the table this season, and our manager was bound to make mistakes, as were the players. Unfortunately, the players have made errors at crucial times and cost us a lot of points. I happen to think that Smith shouldn't lose his job over it.

We've been in a situation with a lot of inexperience at the same time and that doesn't help. I really thought we'd have done better than we have coming back in this scenario, but it hasn't worked out like that.

In my view, even if we go down, I think Smith should stay; there are too many mitigating circumstances to make him lose his job.

Some fair points there.  For me Suso at the very least needs to go, as I think we're mostly agreed that the recruitment has just not been up to scratch, and the Smith/Suso combination just hasn't worked. I'm still very much in the 'Smith Out' camp, because I just haven't seen anything like enough in the training, the improvement of players or the motivation stakes.  But stay up, and if his staying is combined with a real in depth review of what went wrong, with lessons learned, then I wouldn't be too displeased with him staying.  Go down fighting, and there's case to be made either way for him staying or going.  Revert to type against Everton and Arsenal etc, and it's the curly finger in my opinion.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9401 on: July 13, 2020, 01:38:12 PM »
Admittedly against a very mediocre Palace side, we got lucky with the Hause injury (no slur on Hause here).
We also seemed to profit from both Hourihane and Grealish being deployed further up the pitch. Was this Smith responding to the opposition or him stumbling across a winning strategy?
When we win so many free kicks, why have we not found a way to play Hourihane more regularly, since he seems head and shoulders above anyone else in delivering the ball into dangerous places?
Nakamba looked better when he came into a winning team yesterday .... playing on the front foot seems to suit everyone!

I put these up as examples of either Smith getting tactically sharper (eventually) or a series of serendipitous events that conspired to make us look good!

Would the real Dean Smith please stand up?!

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9402 on: July 13, 2020, 01:42:01 PM »
One-upmanship is nothing new on here.
Oh yes it is..

Offline Villan82

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9403 on: July 13, 2020, 01:43:38 PM »
Slim Shady in

Offline paul_e

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9404 on: July 13, 2020, 01:45:48 PM »
I've gone back and forth on Smith over the last 6months but as I said the other day the way we gave up once Man U got their penalty was the tipping point for me. I saw nothing from Smith to show he had any idea how to handle that and I just don't think we can carry that inexperience any more. If we were a slightly older team of people who'd been around this league for a few years we could ride it out and let him take some time to learn from his mistakes but as is the management and players are feeding each other and dragging us below the standard I think this squad is capable of.  Replacing the manager is cheaper, quicker and easier than the alternative so for me he goes after the west ham game regardless of what league we're in at that point.

 


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