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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9135 on: July 10, 2020, 12:36:48 AM »
I've previously said our lack of fight was shit and gave most players a 0. It doesn't alter that a shit decision that should never have happened had a massively negative effect on us.
An unjustifiably negative effect.  It's not the first time and it won't be the last the we - or any other team - gets fucked over.  So fucking what?  Get over yourselves and get back into the game.

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« Reply #9136 on: July 10, 2020, 12:39:14 AM »
So you don't think we were a totally different side after it?
You say that as if it wasn't our fault.  If we fold to such an extent when something goes against us, that's entirely down to us.

This is it for me.

Also @ PWS: I don't think we did ourselves any favours after the penalty shout, certainly not, but we didn't do ourselves any favours before it either, did we? We had opportunities to test their keeper and completely failed to do so. Then goals 2 and 3 were entirely our own doing, and were (IMO) avoidable, so I don't trace that same line that you're implying between the 27th minute (cause) and everything that happened after that (effect). It was just a shit performance where we failed to meaningfully challenge the opposition at any point - again.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9137 on: July 10, 2020, 12:46:59 AM »
Well a brave manager faced with certain defeat would have maybe tried some of the reserves or kids or a different formation or anything to change our luck. I realise he would have got panned when it failed but something he tried or some player he selected could have come off and been tried for the next 4 games. As it is, we're all expecting him to go into the next game with no new ideas, no forward line and no optimism. Bizarrely it always seems to be the case where the nearer a manager gets to losing his job, the less adventurous they get.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9138 on: July 10, 2020, 01:54:49 AM »
I think he's just utterly bereft of ideas now so he's going with what he's got and hoping for something to happen. 

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« Reply #9139 on: July 10, 2020, 05:00:57 AM »
I think he's just utterly bereft of ideas now so he's going with what he's got and hoping for something to happen.
I donít think he has had much of a clue for sometime, you can tell by the body language and the look on the faces of anyone that happens to have that lion on their chest.
They know everything is in hope and not expectation.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9140 on: July 10, 2020, 07:49:16 AM »
That second half last night was so meek.  The half time team talk should have been about being spurred on because of the injustice of the penalty.  Instead, it was about not conceding a hatful of goals and damage limitation.  We sulked our way through the game.  It was a terrible penalty but we HAVE to fight a damn sight harder than we are doing at the moment.  2 points from the last 10 games is almost like death by a thousand cuts.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9141 on: July 10, 2020, 07:56:48 AM »
And with the penalty we just seemed to meekly accept it, there was hardly a murmur from anyone.  We should have been haranguing the Ref after that, show you're furious so we might get something evened up or at least send a message that they're fucked off with the injustice. Matic whinged on and on after a free kick wasn't given to him so it was no surprise they get a soft one handed to them on a plate 20 mins later.

We just seem to collectively shrug our shoulders.
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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9142 on: July 10, 2020, 07:58:35 AM »
That second half last night was so meek.  The half time team talk should have been about being spurred on because of the injustice of the penalty.  Instead, it was about not conceding a hatful of goals and damage limitation.  We sulked our way through the game.  It was a terrible penalty but we HAVE to fight a damn sight harder than we are doing at the moment.  2 points from the last 10 games is almost like death by a thousand cuts.

Agree. Iím more pissed off and angry with the second half Ďperformanceí than I am the diabolical VAR. The travesty of justice should have been used to spur on a response. We are the weakest, most fragile minded group in the league by a mile. Where does this mindset come from? Surely top down? Look at Bournemouth, they came out second half v United and had them rattled in the first 10 minutes of the second half at the weekend. Have it a proper go.
We sulk, winge and when going gets tough just roll over and let our bellyís get tickled.

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« Reply #9143 on: July 10, 2020, 08:01:29 AM »
You know what, if smith is sacked he will be the scapegoat. The entire recruitment and coaching staff need to go as itís a collective clusterfuck

Total over reaction. 

It was a massive task to rebuild the squad to premiership standard with the money allowed.

Yes there have been mistakes but I donít see major unexpected errors.

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« Reply #9144 on: July 10, 2020, 08:02:23 AM »
And with the penalty we just seemed to meekly accept it, there was hardly a murmur from anyone.  We should have been haranguing the Ref after that, show you're furious so we might get something evened up or at least send a message that they're fucked off with the injustice. Matic whinged on and on after a free kick wasn't given to him so it was no surprise they get a soft one handed to them on a plate 20 mins later.

We just seem to collectively our shrug shoulders.
This is what has been bugging me for some time, we donít complain we seem to be in some Edwardian time warp, I say old chap if you think itís a penalty then good for you, yes Sir referee, absolutely fine for those good fellows to keep kicking our best player but of course we should be punished for even the tiniest transgressions.
Would you like to pop round later and roger my wife ?, no JT I was talking to Sir .

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9145 on: July 10, 2020, 08:02:43 AM »

Most other managers would have been all over the ref at half time. Smith seems such a nice bloke, it is as if we are playing as the Corinthian Casuals.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9146 on: July 10, 2020, 08:19:47 AM »
The seeds of our destruction last night lie on the whole approach to the 10-game mini-league, at the start of which Smith said he felt the squad was fitter and more aware of its previous shortfalls and had learned from them. He then sent the teams against SheffU and Newcastle particularly (but Chelsea and Dogheads as well) with a 'let's not lose' approach. Totally wrong mindset.
If we'd won against SheffU and Newcastle, we'd be in a different place and our approach  to last night's game would have been entirely different.
Poor decision-making and poor management.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9147 on: July 10, 2020, 08:49:24 AM »
You know what, if smith is sacked he will be the scapegoat. The entire recruitment and coaching staff need to go as itís a collective clusterfuck

Total over reaction. 

It was a massive task to rebuild the squad to premiership standard with the money allowed.

Yes there have been mistakes but I donít see major unexpected errors.

I disagree.  Look at the players we have recruited, what we paid and the performances they have served up.  I firmly believe that a lot of these duds (which they clearly are) have been brought to the club by a man who has no idea of what it takes to survive in the English top tier.  It's also my opinion that Smith has had to integrate these players into a team that's not his preferred choice, but he's tried to make it go because he loves this club and it's the job of his dreams.

People are talking about Smith wanting Maupay, Benrahma, Webster and instead getting Trezeguet, Samatta and Engels. This may be true, it may not but I know who I'd rather have in the team.  Our recruitment has, on the whole, been absolutely woeful - and this is borne out by the abject performances we are having to endure.  Start the inquest.

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« Reply #9148 on: July 10, 2020, 08:56:33 AM »
It isnít just Smiths fault but he has failed in one of the most important aspects of his job.
He has been useless at game management, just a few more points from winning positions and we would be close to safety.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9149 on: July 10, 2020, 09:06:57 AM »
JT and Smith will go after this - regardless of what happens next four matches

 


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