Quote from: Sexual Ealing on July 08, 2020, 03:22:55 PMQuote from: hilts_coolerking on July 08, 2020, 03:01:54 PMIt never ceases to amaze me how much moaning goes on about the perceived moaning or pessimism. As if there's something incomprehensible about why people are pessimistic at this particular moment in time.It's not the pessimism that's difficult to understand; it's the relentlessness.Absolutely. The frustration is understandable. It's almost as if some people try and sound angrier than they did the day before.
Quote from: hilts_coolerking on July 08, 2020, 03:01:54 PMIt never ceases to amaze me how much moaning goes on about the perceived moaning or pessimism. As if there's something incomprehensible about why people are pessimistic at this particular moment in time.It's not the pessimism that's difficult to understand; it's the relentlessness.
It never ceases to amaze me how much moaning goes on about the perceived moaning or pessimism. As if there's something incomprehensible about why people are pessimistic at this particular moment in time.
Quote from: Clampy on July 08, 2020, 03:25:03 PMQuote from: Sexual Ealing on July 08, 2020, 03:22:55 PMQuote from: hilts_coolerking on July 08, 2020, 03:01:54 PMIt never ceases to amaze me how much moaning goes on about the perceived moaning or pessimism. As if there's something incomprehensible about why people are pessimistic at this particular moment in time.It's not the pessimism that's difficult to understand; it's the relentlessness.Absolutely. The frustration is understandable. It's almost as if some people try and sound angrier than they did the day before.I think the bigger problem is that once the pessimism kicks in EVERYTHING is shit, Mings isn't worth £15m, we'll be lucky if get £50m for Jack and he's not that good anyway, Luiz is playing well so he'll definitely leave to go back to Man City, Smith just got lucky last season, Purslow is shit and should be sacked, etc etc.No one is claiming things are great but it's also clearly not true that everything is terrible, it's doesn't have to be one or the other.
Precisely. It the hyperbole that kills you. Something is not right so lets burn everything. It's the kind of thinking that gets us Brexit.
Quote from: paul_e on July 08, 2020, 03:38:50 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 08, 2020, 03:25:03 PMQuote from: Sexual Ealing on July 08, 2020, 03:22:55 PMQuote from: hilts_coolerking on July 08, 2020, 03:01:54 PMIt never ceases to amaze me how much moaning goes on about the perceived moaning or pessimism. As if there's something incomprehensible about why people are pessimistic at this particular moment in time.It's not the pessimism that's difficult to understand; it's the relentlessness.Absolutely. The frustration is understandable. It's almost as if some people try and sound angrier than they did the day before.I think the bigger problem is that once the pessimism kicks in EVERYTHING is shit, Mings isn't worth £15m, we'll be lucky if get £50m for Jack and he's not that good anyway, Luiz is playing well so he'll definitely leave to go back to Man City, Smith just got lucky last season, Purslow is shit and should be sacked, etc etc.No one is claiming things are great but it's also clearly not true that everything is terrible, it's doesn't have to be one or the other.Just a touch of exaggeration there
Quote from: AsTallAsLions on July 08, 2020, 03:41:03 PMQuote from: paul_e on July 08, 2020, 03:38:50 PMI think the bigger problem is that once the pessimism kicks in EVERYTHING is shit, Mings isn't worth £15m, we'll be lucky if get £50m for Jack and he's not that good anyway, Luiz is playing well so he'll definitely leave to go back to Man City, Smith just got lucky last season, Purslow is shit and should be sacked, etc etc.No one is claiming things are great but it's also clearly not true that everything is terrible, it's doesn't have to be one or the other.Just a touch of exaggeration thereWhat's the exaggeration? Are any of the examples I've given not things that have been said on this forum in the last week?
Quote from: paul_e on July 08, 2020, 03:38:50 PMI think the bigger problem is that once the pessimism kicks in EVERYTHING is shit, Mings isn't worth £15m, we'll be lucky if get £50m for Jack and he's not that good anyway, Luiz is playing well so he'll definitely leave to go back to Man City, Smith just got lucky last season, Purslow is shit and should be sacked, etc etc.No one is claiming things are great but it's also clearly not true that everything is terrible, it's doesn't have to be one or the other.Just a touch of exaggeration there
I think the bigger problem is that once the pessimism kicks in EVERYTHING is shit, Mings isn't worth £15m, we'll be lucky if get £50m for Jack and he's not that good anyway, Luiz is playing well so he'll definitely leave to go back to Man City, Smith just got lucky last season, Purslow is shit and should be sacked, etc etc.No one is claiming things are great but it's also clearly not true that everything is terrible, it's doesn't have to be one or the other.
Quote from: LeeB on July 08, 2020, 03:43:17 PMPrecisely. It the hyperbole that kills you. Something is not right so lets burn everything. It's the kind of thinking that gets us Brexit.Is anyone saying that though? Seems to me the reaction this season is either sack Dean or sack Suso or do nothing. Everyone would agree we need to buy and sell a few players. Our performances have been so poor that something has to change.
Quote from: hilts_coolerking on July 08, 2020, 03:47:08 PMQuote from: LeeB on July 08, 2020, 03:43:17 PMPrecisely. It the hyperbole that kills you. Something is not right so lets burn everything. It's the kind of thinking that gets us Brexit.Is anyone saying that though? Seems to me the reaction this season is either sack Dean or sack Suso or do nothing. Everyone would agree we need to buy and sell a few players. Our performances have been so poor that something has to change.That post is perfectly reasonable though, many others aren't.
Quote from: LeeB on July 08, 2020, 03:56:42 PMQuote from: hilts_coolerking on July 08, 2020, 03:47:08 PMQuote from: LeeB on July 08, 2020, 03:43:17 PMPrecisely. It the hyperbole that kills you. Something is not right so lets burn everything. It's the kind of thinking that gets us Brexit.Is anyone saying that though? Seems to me the reaction this season is either sack Dean or sack Suso or do nothing. Everyone would agree we need to buy and sell a few players. Our performances have been so poor that something has to change.That post is perfectly reasonable though, many others aren't.I