Dean Smith - Confirmed

[hilts_coolerking]

How did we bounce back so quickly? Three years really isn't that long when you see Forest, Sheff Weds and Leeds have a combined 57 years out of the top division now.

Another three years in the Championship would set us much further back than we are now, which is miles off.

[Ad@m]

I think the logic of looking for undervalued players is sound.

In a world of FFP, even though our owners have the resources to do so, they can't just buy all the best players on the planet. They've got to build the revenue stream of the club at the same time as the playing squad. Unfortunately that's a bit chicken and egg. So the answer is to look for players who can do both.

Unfortunately, in US sports the worst that can happen if that goes wrong is you'll finish last and have another crack next year. Football obviously has relegation which is why "young and hungry" to coin a phrase got us relegated last time and will do the same again this time. While the approach is sound in principle it needs to be supplemented with a few experienced heads to help bring through the youngsters quicker. That's where we've gone wrong again this time.

[SoccerHQ]

How did we bounce back so quickly? Three years really isn't that long when you see Forest, Sheff Weds and Leeds have a combined 57 years out of the top division now.

Another three years in the Championship would set us much further back than we are now, which is miles off.

I think we'd come straight back up next season (top 2) providing we make quick and sensible decisions in summer e.g. decide on manager's future within days of this one ending. Also no point trying to cling onto Jack for the whole summer just to lose him as the season starts as we've done in the past with likes of Milner. If he's going let him go quick.

Who knows how good the 5-6 new players who will be lining up in our 11 will be in September? People seem to be thinking we'll just go with the same squad we had now. It didn't happen in 2016 and it won't happen now as you always need fresh faces if you're going down with a losing culture.

I actually think McGinn will stay aswell. He hasn't looked right at all coming back from injury so think a few interested clubs will wait for him to hit form again in the championship. He also signed a new long term contract in August.

[hilts_coolerking]

I think we'd come straight back up next season (top 2) providing we make quick and sensible decisions in summer e.g. decide on manager's future within days of this one ending. Also no point trying to cling onto Jack for the whole summer just to lose him as the season starts as we've done in the past with likes of Milner. If he's going let him go quick.

Who knows how good the 5-6 new players who will be lining up in our 11 will be in September? People seem to be thinking we'll just go with the same squad we had now. It didn't happen in 2016 and it won't happen now as you always need fresh faces if you're going down with a losing culture.

I think we're going to have change the recruitment team and the manager / coaching team if we want to even think about coming straight back up.  There are so many problems to fix at the moment.

[Damo70]

The “ we will be ok if we go down” is fantasy, we won’t. This squad is not set up too deal with Division 2 and the heart will be ripped out of it.We will end up with some expensive, cant get rid of players which does nothing for squad harmony and togetherness and need to replace many key players.
As well as the psychological blow you have the huge reorganisation required.
We then have the worry concerning our owners appetite.

Same happened last time didn't it? Infact I'd be amazed if anyone was to argue the 2016 squad was better than this one. Yet we came up within three years (could've been two if we'd turned up v Fulham). Also Jordan Ayew was our best attacking player that season and he stayed although ironically he didn't do much in the championship.

How did we bounce back so quickly? Three years really isn't that long when you see Forest, Sheff Weds and Leeds have a combined 57 years out of the top division now.

People forgetting we will be a big fish in small pond again and can actually attract better players than being a premier league struggler. Last time out we signed Chester, Kodjia, Adomah, Jedinak in that first transfer window. All were involved when we won the play off final but for one reason or another couldn't contribute in the premier league.

Think that's what we need to learn for next time. The 4-5 we sign to freshen up and improve the 11 need not just to be standout players in championship but also have the potential to be good players in premier league.

Generally speaking I have to disagree with your suggestion that a big Championship club can attract players more so than a smaller Premier League club. The days of SGT leaving comfortably top flight Watford for us in a league lower are long gone. Every season you see players who have just been relegated from the Premier League with one club jump ship for a newly promoted side. If we go down and Bournemouth stay up most players given a choice would choose to sign for 'Little Bournemouth' in the Premier League rather than Aston Villa of the Championship.

[Risso]

Sawiris was at quite a few more games than Edens was this season, and seemed to be far more "into it" than Wes.  He went absolutely mental when Trezeguet scored v Liverpool.

[SoccerHQ]

The “ we will be ok if we go down” is fantasy, we won’t. This squad is not set up too deal with Division 2 and the heart will be ripped out of it.We will end up with some expensive, cant get rid of players which does nothing for squad harmony and togetherness and need to replace many key players.
As well as the psychological blow you have the huge reorganisation required.
We then have the worry concerning our owners appetite.

Same happened last time didn't it? Infact I'd be amazed if anyone was to argue the 2016 squad was better than this one. Yet we came up within three years (could've been two if we'd turned up v Fulham). Also Jordan Ayew was our best attacking player that season and he stayed although ironically he didn't do much in the championship.

How did we bounce back so quickly? Three years really isn't that long when you see Forest, Sheff Weds and Leeds have a combined 57 years out of the top division now.

People forgetting we will be a big fish in small pond again and can actually attract better players than being a premier league struggler. Last time out we signed Chester, Kodjia, Adomah, Jedinak in that first transfer window. All were involved when we won the play off final but for one reason or another couldn't contribute in the premier league.

Think that's what we need to learn for next time. The 4-5 we sign to freshen up and improve the 11 need not just to be standout players in championship but also have the potential to be good players in premier league.

Generally speaking I have to disagree with your suggestion that a big Championship club can attract players more so than a smaller Premier League club. The days of SGT leaving comfortably top flight Watford for us in a league lower are long gone. Every season you see players who have just been relegated from the Premier League with one club jump ship for a newly promoted side. If we go down and Bournemouth stay up most players given a choice would choose to sign for 'Little Bournemouth' in the Premier League rather than Aston Villa of the Championship.

In our three years in the championship we signed John Terry, Snodgrass and Tammy. That is far higher pedigree of player than anything we attracted last summer. Snoddy, a mid table workaholic wide player is still miles better than dear old Trez and would've probably got more goals and assists than AEG has this year. 5 goals for West Ham so think that's one more than El Ghazi.

[kippaxvilla2]

I think we will be better equipped in the championship if we go but anyone thinking it won’t be so bad if we go down need to look at what’s happening.

We made a £68m loss and that was after selling the ground.  We will have probably made a loss this year despite the PL money. 

Championship clubs are on the brink in some cases.  The TV deal there gives you £6m plus tv appearances.  There’s talk of a wage cap at £18m to replace ffp.  Imagine our wage bill?!  There’s a lot to be concerned about and that is reliant on the owners not pulling up the drawbridge. 

[ChicagoLion]

The “ we will be ok if we go down” is fantasy, we won’t. This squad is not set up too deal with Division 2 and the heart will be ripped out of it.We will end up with some expensive, cant get rid of players which does nothing for squad harmony and togetherness and need to replace many key players.
As well as the psychological blow you have the huge reorganisation required.
We then have the worry concerning our owners appetite.

Same happened last time didn't it? Infact I'd be amazed if anyone was to argue the 2016 squad was better than this one. Yet we came up within three years (could've been two if we'd turned up v Fulham). Also Jordan Ayew was our best attacking player that season and he stayed although ironically he didn't do much in the championship.

How did we bounce back so quickly? Three years really isn't that long when you see Forest, Sheff Weds and Leeds have a combined 57 years out of the top division now.

People forgetting we will be a big fish in small pond again and can actually attract better players than being a premier league struggler. Last time out we signed Chester, Kodjia, Adomah, Jedinak in that first transfer window. All were involved when we won the play off final but for one reason or another couldn't contribute in the premier league.

Think that's what we need to learn for next time. The 4-5 we sign to freshen up and improve the 11 need not just to be standout players in championship but also have the potential to be good players in premier league.

It was 3 years , 2 play offs a winding up petition and a financial rescue. You have no idea what the squad will look like, who the manager will be, our ability to sign better players, how many we will need, how many deadbeats we can get off the books and no idea what our owners will do.
Other than that, it will be a piece of piss.

[Toronto Villa]

At a different level I would love to be eventually do what Leicester have done. They seem to have a pipeline of great talent that they sell on for twice or three times the price. The title certainly helped push them on but even before that they were collecting brilliant undervalued pieces. Wolves obviously also but the Mendes connection helps them immensely. We cannot avoid losing our best players up the food chain. What we must be better at is finding players from all across the world before they become established.

[KevinGage]

Indeed. Lose Harry Maguire and find Soyuncu - who looks a far more accomplished player.

[Toronto Villa]

Indeed. Lose Harry Maguire and find Soyuncu - who looks a far more accomplished player.

They raked in a bunch from selling Mahrez, Kante, Drinkwater and will do so again this summer when Chilwell likely moves on. Didn’t they pay a small fee for Johnny Evans? He’s been superb for them.

[LeeB]

Indeed. Lose Harry Maguire and find Soyuncu - who looks a far more accomplished player.

They raked in a bunch from selling Mahrez, Kante, Drinkwater and will do so again this summer when Chilwell likely moves on. Didn’t they pay a small fee for Johnny Evans? He’s been superb for them.

£3.5m FFS, or about as much as Henri Lansbury if you like.

[Mister E]

... Think that's what we need to learn for next time. The 4-5 we sign to freshen up and improve the 11 need not just to be standout players in championship but also have the potential to be good players in premier league.

Yeah, I agree with this.
The idea that somehow we can create a squad to get promotion, rebuild for consolidation and then rebuild again for a push on European places (which, IIRC, was the strategy of Purslow's rather large predecessor) always seemed naive and unrealistic.
We have to build a core of players who can win promotion and consolidate first-tier safety. The core needs to have a mix of experience and youthful potential, with a coaching staff that can develop both great teamship and individual growth.

[ez]

Have to say wolves got it spot on.