How did we bounce back so quickly? Three years really isn't that long when you see Forest, Sheff Weds and Leeds have a combined 57 years out of the top division now.
Quote from: SoccerHQ on July 06, 2020, 12:48:57 PMHow did we bounce back so quickly? Three years really isn't that long when you see Forest, Sheff Weds and Leeds have a combined 57 years out of the top division now.Another three years in the Championship would set us much further back than we are now, which is miles off.
I think we'd come straight back up next season (top 2) providing we make quick and sensible decisions in summer e.g. decide on manager's future within days of this one ending. Also no point trying to cling onto Jack for the whole summer just to lose him as the season starts as we've done in the past with likes of Milner. If he's going let him go quick.Who knows how good the 5-6 new players who will be lining up in our 11 will be in September? People seem to be thinking we'll just go with the same squad we had now. It didn't happen in 2016 and it won't happen now as you always need fresh faces if you're going down with a losing culture.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on July 06, 2020, 07:36:32 AMThe “ we will be ok if we go down” is fantasy, we won’t. This squad is not set up too deal with Division 2 and the heart will be ripped out of it.We will end up with some expensive, cant get rid of players which does nothing for squad harmony and togetherness and need to replace many key players.As well as the psychological blow you have the huge reorganisation required.We then have the worry concerning our owners appetite.Same happened last time didn't it? Infact I'd be amazed if anyone was to argue the 2016 squad was better than this one. Yet we came up within three years (could've been two if we'd turned up v Fulham). Also Jordan Ayew was our best attacking player that season and he stayed although ironically he didn't do much in the championship.How did we bounce back so quickly? Three years really isn't that long when you see Forest, Sheff Weds and Leeds have a combined 57 years out of the top division now.People forgetting we will be a big fish in small pond again and can actually attract better players than being a premier league struggler. Last time out we signed Chester, Kodjia, Adomah, Jedinak in that first transfer window. All were involved when we won the play off final but for one reason or another couldn't contribute in the premier league.Think that's what we need to learn for next time. The 4-5 we sign to freshen up and improve the 11 need not just to be standout players in championship but also have the potential to be good players in premier league.
The “ we will be ok if we go down” is fantasy, we won’t. This squad is not set up too deal with Division 2 and the heart will be ripped out of it.We will end up with some expensive, cant get rid of players which does nothing for squad harmony and togetherness and need to replace many key players.As well as the psychological blow you have the huge reorganisation required.We then have the worry concerning our owners appetite.
Quote from: SoccerHQ on July 06, 2020, 12:48:57 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on July 06, 2020, 07:36:32 AMThe “ we will be ok if we go down” is fantasy, we won’t. This squad is not set up too deal with Division 2 and the heart will be ripped out of it.We will end up with some expensive, cant get rid of players which does nothing for squad harmony and togetherness and need to replace many key players.As well as the psychological blow you have the huge reorganisation required.We then have the worry concerning our owners appetite.Same happened last time didn't it? Infact I'd be amazed if anyone was to argue the 2016 squad was better than this one. Yet we came up within three years (could've been two if we'd turned up v Fulham). Also Jordan Ayew was our best attacking player that season and he stayed although ironically he didn't do much in the championship.How did we bounce back so quickly? Three years really isn't that long when you see Forest, Sheff Weds and Leeds have a combined 57 years out of the top division now.People forgetting we will be a big fish in small pond again and can actually attract better players than being a premier league struggler. Last time out we signed Chester, Kodjia, Adomah, Jedinak in that first transfer window. All were involved when we won the play off final but for one reason or another couldn't contribute in the premier league.Think that's what we need to learn for next time. The 4-5 we sign to freshen up and improve the 11 need not just to be standout players in championship but also have the potential to be good players in premier league.Generally speaking I have to disagree with your suggestion that a big Championship club can attract players more so than a smaller Premier League club. The days of SGT leaving comfortably top flight Watford for us in a league lower are long gone. Every season you see players who have just been relegated from the Premier League with one club jump ship for a newly promoted side. If we go down and Bournemouth stay up most players given a choice would choose to sign for 'Little Bournemouth' in the Premier League rather than Aston Villa of the Championship.
Indeed. Lose Harry Maguire and find Soyuncu - who looks a far more accomplished player.
Quote from: KevinGage on July 06, 2020, 03:42:47 PMIndeed. Lose Harry Maguire and find Soyuncu - who looks a far more accomplished player. They raked in a bunch from selling Mahrez, Kante, Drinkwater and will do so again this summer when Chilwell likely moves on. Didn’t they pay a small fee for Johnny Evans? He’s been superb for them.
... Think that's what we need to learn for next time. The 4-5 we sign to freshen up and improve the 11 need not just to be standout players in championship but also have the potential to be good players in premier league.