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Author Topic: Dean Smith - Confirmed  (Read 467564 times)

Offline Risso

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6945 on: February 26, 2020, 10:31:41 AM »

With the others having a decent amount of time left on their contracts, we'd get a good fee if they were to go, which could be reinvested. We could loan them to a club in the Premier League for a decent fee.....

We'd make a loss on them all except the aforementioned players and Luiz, should Man City decide to buy him back, which I doubt.  And then we'd have to trust Pitarch and Smith not to completely arse the recruitment process up again.  It would be a shitfest.

Who do you think we'd have to sell that we'd make a loss on?

The players we'd "have to sell" we'd make a profit on (Jack, McGinn etc).  Other players like Wesley, Nakamba, Trezeguet, we wouldn't have to sell them, and if we did, we'd be making a loss I reckon.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6946 on: February 26, 2020, 10:44:33 AM »
You should call the club and let them know.

Thanks, helpful as ever.
Thanks but no gold star?
Disappointed.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6947 on: February 26, 2020, 10:50:16 AM »
If we had this squad going into a championship season, we'd be right up there i reckon, as long as the recruitment was at least fairly successful...

Heaton, Steer, Sarkic
Guilbert, Elhammody, Hause, Konsa, Engels, (New Player), Targett, Taylor
Nakamba, Hourahane, (3 new players)
Jota, Trezeguet, El Ghazi, (New player), Wesley, Davis, Samatta, Baston.

The new players being a centre back, ball winning midfielder, box to box midfielder, creative midfielder and another winger.

Use the money from selling Grealish, McGinn and Mings who i think would want to go. I also think Luiz wouldn't hang around so he'd probably be sold, Reina wouldn't stay on and we would offload Drinkwater and sell Lansbury and Hogan as well.

But let's hope it doesn't come to that.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6948 on: February 26, 2020, 11:33:24 AM »

We'd make a loss on them all except the aforementioned players and Luiz, should Man City decide to buy him back, which I doubt.  And then we'd have to trust Pitarch and Smith not to completely arse the recruitment process up again.  It would be a shitfest.

Who do you think we'd have to sell that we'd make a loss on?

The players we'd "have to sell" we'd make a profit on (Jack, McGinn etc).  Other players like Wesley, Nakamba, Trezeguet, we wouldn't have to sell them, and if we did, we'd be making a loss I reckon.

Wesley and Nakamba are the only ones we'd possibly make much of a loss on I reckon, in part down to the insanity of fees these days. I just don't think we'd "make a loss on them all", certainly not a loss of note in footballing terms.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6949 on: February 26, 2020, 12:12:04 PM »
You should call the club and let them know.

Thanks, helpful as ever.
Thanks but no gold star?
Disappointed.

Edited for the sake of realising its pointless.

Stay happy.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2020, 12:15:15 PM by Drummond »

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6950 on: February 26, 2020, 12:16:07 PM »
It might take years and years to get over Smith at this rate.

Blimey, that's a tad over the top to be honest.

I think if he relegates us, you'll see it'll have quite a deleterious effect.  You once thought I was mental saying that we'd be close to administration if our owner couldn't support us any more, and yet under Xia we came very close to doing just that.  That wouldn't be the case under the new owners, but we would have to lose Jack, and almost certainly Mings, Heaton and McGinn as well, and then rebuild from scratch.

As we've seen before in the championship getting in a really good striker can easily hide weaknesses elsewhere.

I'd be happy getting someone like Dwight Gayle in given he's more than proven at that level and will probably be available. Indeed I expect it will be roughly the same strikerforce as now and the other three will be o.k I think aswell.

When we went down last time we picked up Chester who was a squad player at a premier league club so think Mings can be replaced.

The big problem will be replacing Jack. Don't just lose majority of quality in final third but pretty much all the personality aswell. And the worry is we're not even proven under DS as a winning team at championship level without Grealish around given our horrible run for three months last season when he was injured. We still had Tammy, McGinn and from late January Mings all as regulars so it's not like we were putting terrible teams out in that spell either.

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6951 on: February 26, 2020, 12:20:07 PM »
If we had this squad going into a championship season, we'd be right up there i reckon, as long as the recruitment was at least fairly successful...

Heaton, Steer, Sarkic
Guilbert, Elhammody, Hause, Konsa, Engels, (New Player), Targett, Taylor
Nakamba, Hourahane, (3 new players)
Jota, Trezeguet, El Ghazi, (New player), Wesley, Davis, Samatta, Baston.

The new players being a centre back, ball winning midfielder, box to box midfielder, creative midfielder and another winger.

Use the money from selling Grealish, McGinn and Mings who i think would want to go. I also think Luiz wouldn't hang around so he'd probably be sold, Reina wouldn't stay on and we would offload Drinkwater and sell Lansbury and Hogan as well.

But let's hope it doesn't come to that.

Looking at that squad its good on paper but one key ans massive ingredient missing that will never get us up - leaders.

Absolutely no leaders in that team. You need leaders like mings mcginn and grealish.

There is talent there but we would need aggresive leaders with experience signings with that lot

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6952 on: February 26, 2020, 12:20:30 PM »
Jota would still be with us. He may not be Premier League but he'd do just fine in the Championship.

O'Hare would be back and ours. Young Barry would no doubt get games too.

I don't want us to go down but to suggest it's the end of the world is typical doom mongering.

We survived last time with vastly shitter owners. This time we'd be fine. The trick would be recruitment for the next season in the top flight with a largely settled squad.

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6953 on: February 26, 2020, 12:26:04 PM »
Jota would still be with us. He may not be Premier League but he'd do just fine in the Championship.

O'Hare would be back and ours. Young Barry would no doubt get games too.

I don't want us to go down but to suggest it's the end of the world is typical doom mongering.

We survived last time with vastly shitter owners. This time we'd be fine. The trick would be recruitment for the next season in the top flight with a largely settled squad.

We wont be fine it will be another collosal mess. Your also missing the bigger picture we would have lost a potential brilliant spine of the team with the sales of mings mcginn and grealish.

The team that took us down was shit this one has potential. We would have to do the reset buttkn YET AGAIN!

It would be a potential disaster

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6954 on: February 26, 2020, 12:33:00 PM »
I think it would be o.k.

You've still got guys like Hourihane and El Ghazi who played their part in promotion last time. Just use the loan market and get in a couple of experienced heads, there's no great secret.

Would expect a serious top 2 challenge.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6955 on: February 26, 2020, 12:37:21 PM »
Jota would still be with us. He may not be Premier League but he'd do just fine in the Championship.

O'Hare would be back and ours. Young Barry would no doubt get games too.

I don't want us to go down but to suggest it's the end of the world is typical doom mongering.

We survived last time with vastly shitter owners. This time we'd be fine. The trick would be recruitment for the next season in the top flight with a largely settled squad.

We wont be fine it will be another collosal mess. Your also missing the bigger picture we would have lost a potential brilliant spine of the team with the sales of mings mcginn and grealish.

The team that took us down was shit this one has potential. We would have to do the reset buttkn YET AGAIN!

It would be a potential disaster

Well that makes no sense. If we'd be in a better position than when we went down before, surely it means we'd be in a better position?

I'm not missing anything thanks. I'm well aware of who we may lose. But I'm also sure that the remaining players would all do perfectly well in the Championship. And they'd have played together, too.


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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6956 on: February 26, 2020, 12:42:17 PM »
Jota would still be with us. He may not be Premier League but he'd do just fine in the Championship.

O'Hare would be back and ours. Young Barry would no doubt get games too.

I don't want us to go down but to suggest it's the end of the world is typical doom mongering.

We survived last time with vastly shitter owners. This time we'd be fine. The trick would be recruitment for the next season in the top flight with a largely settled squad.

Jota couldnít get into a shit Blues team. Buying him was entirely pointless.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6957 on: February 26, 2020, 12:52:24 PM »
Jota would still be with us. He may not be Premier League but he'd do just fine in the Championship.

O'Hare would be back and ours. Young Barry would no doubt get games too.

I don't want us to go down but to suggest it's the end of the world is typical doom mongering.

We survived last time with vastly shitter owners. This time we'd be fine. The trick would be recruitment for the next season in the top flight with a largely settled squad.

Jota couldnít get into a shit Blues team. Buying him was entirely pointless.
Certainly agree with that!!
He and Trez were definitely low-cost punts that have not paid off. Trez might make it in the 2nd tier but Jota is a chocolate teapot.

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6958 on: February 26, 2020, 12:54:57 PM »
Jota would still be with us. He may not be Premier League but he'd do just fine in the Championship.

O'Hare would be back and ours. Young Barry would no doubt get games too.

I don't want us to go down but to suggest it's the end of the world is typical doom mongering.

We survived last time with vastly shitter owners. This time we'd be fine. The trick would be recruitment for the next season in the top flight with a largely settled squad.

We wont be fine it will be another collosal mess. Your also missing the bigger picture we would have lost a potential brilliant spine of the team with the sales of mings mcginn and grealish.

The team that took us down was shit this one has potential. We would have to do the reset buttkn YET AGAIN!

It would be a potential disaster

Well that makes no sense. If we'd be in a better position than when we went down before, surely it means we'd be in a better position?

I'm not missing anything thanks. I'm well aware of who we may lose. But I'm also sure that the remaining players would all do perfectly well in the Championship. And they'd have played together, too.

It makes a lot of sense thanks. Just because we may not be aa bad as the last time we went down doesnt mean this time will be any easier.

You seriously dont know if you think we will be ok without mcginn  grealish and mings. Oh lets not forget we have no tammy either. None of our exiating strikers are any where near the level of tammy.

Your making out as if replacing grealish mcginn and mings will be easy?

Its going to be as tough as it was when the first year we went down.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6959 on: February 26, 2020, 01:07:23 PM »
Jota would still be with us. He may not be Premier League but he'd do just fine in the Championship.

O'Hare would be back and ours. Young Barry would no doubt get games too.

I don't want us to go down but to suggest it's the end of the world is typical doom mongering.

We survived last time with vastly shitter owners. This time we'd be fine. The trick would be recruitment for the next season in the top flight with a largely settled squad.

Jota couldnít get into a shit Blues team. Buying him was entirely pointless.

O'Hare? Barry? Or is everyone that we have on the books (excluding Grealish, Mings and McGinn) shit?