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Author Topic: Dean Smith - Confirmed  (Read 464748 times)

Offline Flamingo Lane

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6900 on: February 24, 2020, 07:51:14 PM »
They don't have to score, if they create enough panic in the box, one of our other lot might cash in.

In theory anyway.

More of a case of 'ooh, look at me everyone, I'm a goalie up for a corner.'  Yes, you are, and you're a pratt.

Offline Luke8

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6901 on: February 24, 2020, 08:03:25 PM »
I like Smith but the fact that we have got to the end of February and Im
not convinced that he knows, or certainly at least hasnt consistently played, his best team is far from ideal. Not all his fault obviously but not especially convincing/helpful.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6902 on: February 24, 2020, 08:15:58 PM »
I like Smith but the fact that we have got to the end of February and Im
not convinced that he knows, or certainly at least hasnt consistently played, his best team is far from ideal. Not all his fault obviously but not especially convincing/helpful.
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Offline Villan82

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6905 on: February 24, 2020, 11:21:04 PM »
Heaton and Mings are internationals. Nyland and Pepe have been good between the sticks. Engels and Konsa have potential as do the full backs. We have to be doing better than those pathetic stats.

For me it is the set-up. All we needed this year is to average a point a game. I feel we have been too open in too many games.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6906 on: February 24, 2020, 11:28:51 PM »
Smith needs to get ruthless. He's not only fighting for our future, he's fighting for his own. He's had more support than any Villa manager, past or present, now is the time to show his steel. There's really nothing else to say. Whatever happens, he can't say he never had the longest ever Villa honeymoon in recent history.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6907 on: February 25, 2020, 12:19:00 AM »
Since Paul Lambert?

Online SoccerHQ

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6908 on: February 25, 2020, 12:54:41 AM »
Lambert one was purely for not being Alex McLeish and in any case it all but disappeared after xmas 2012 especially with Bradford tagged on to that horrific run.

Think Dean will still be here in August whichever division we're in. Goes without saying he needs a good transfer window and start to the season.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6909 on: February 25, 2020, 06:08:18 AM »
The three at the back has worked in certain games, just as 4 at the back has in certain games.  What Smith needs to learn is when to play each formation.  The one size fits all approach is a load of bollocks, and shows just how limited he is.

Seems to have worked for less games than it hasnt and when we played four at the back though mart.

I agree though with your point for when he needs to learn when ro play each formation.

I put that siants perfoemance up with thag shit Watford away one and the home game against saints.

Watford away and Southampton at home we played a back 4. The switch came New Years Day away to Burnley.

Since the change we beat Burnley away and Leicester over 2 legs and Watford at home and drew at Brighton.

Feb has been a bad month points wise.  Getting no points on the board home and away against Bournemouth and Southampton has been a real kicker and wed be much better off even with just 2 draws (and then 2 points worse off)

Were still conceding with 5 at the back but were also scoring more which seemed to be one of the main criticisms before the change. See Southampton at home and Watford away.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6910 on: February 25, 2020, 06:54:02 AM »
It might take years and years to get over Smith at this rate.

Blimey, that's a tad over the top to be honest.

Offline Luke8

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6911 on: February 25, 2020, 08:36:40 AM »

Were still conceding with 5 at the back but were also scoring more which seemed to be one of the main criticisms before the change. See Southampton at home and Watford away.


I appreciate this is a relatively simple way of looking at it, but Im not sure we are scoring that many more - 1.33 goals a game compared to 1.25 when playing 4-3-3 - and that is also then pretty much negated anyway by the fact we have conceded 2 goals a games compared to 1.8.

I was one of the people advocating a switch to three at the back and it has yielded some positive results but, like with the 4-3-3, we havent quite managed to get it right often enough for a variety of reasons.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6912 on: February 25, 2020, 08:44:21 AM »


... Were still conceding with 5 at the back but were also scoring more which seemed to be one of the main criticisms before the change. See Southampton at home and Watford away.
And here is the myth, probably based on the bias against Wesley: scoring had not been the problem.
It's always been about the goals-conceded, and this was being discussed here when footy led the campaign against Wesley pre-Xmas.
Andy's screenshot says everything we need to know about this season. And if you look at last season's table you'll see that our goals-against tally was poor compared to other top-10 teams (other than the Bitters).

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6913 on: February 25, 2020, 08:54:32 AM »
Heaton and Mings are internationals. Nyland and Pepe have been good between the sticks. Engels and Konsa have potential as do the full backs. We have to be doing better than those pathetic stats.

For me it is the set-up. All we needed this year is to average a point a game. I feel we have been too open in too many games.

It's the midfield also. Which might as well not exist.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6914 on: February 25, 2020, 08:56:10 AM »
I think we should be moving back to 433 but with two of the 3 sitting in front of the defence. You'll still have 4 attacking players available and cover for the full backs.

The issue is for me not just individual errors at the back, but the ease with which pressure is placed on the defence with such a porous midfield.