Dean Smith - Confirmed

[Risso]

Most of Leeds team are established players. That Clarke kid is obviously their Grealish stand out talent. Davis only came in because Barry Douglas was ill in the warm up.

We did play Bree who only just turned 20 when SB would've put Jedinak in there.

Likes of O'Hare need loans and then we can properly judge how close they are as tbh under 23 football friendlies simply dosen't cut it as a breeding ground in the modern game.

The first team might be established players, but the entire bench was kids.  I'd say bringing the likes of O'Hare on would be beneficial to both him and us.  Even Davis would be a better option than Hogan.

"We put Scott Hogan on because he runs in behind and we keep looking to give it to him at his feet. The players have played with Scott enough to know what his strengths are."

Firstly Dean, no they haven't, and secondly, what are those strengths exactly?  Because I cannot think of a time when Hogan coming on as sub has worked for us.

[Richard E]

Or indeed Hogan starting.

[brian green]

I cannot believe how Hogan continues to be credited with skills he does not have.  My assumption is the time honoured deceit that he cost a mountain of money so he must be good.

[Richard E]

I cannot believe how Hogan continues to be credited with skills he does not have.  My assumption is the time honoured deceit that he cost a mountain of money so he must be good.

Or the habit of rating players inversely proportionately to the amount of time they actually spend in the team.

[mr underhill]

Lots of people on here thought that if only Dean Smith were our manager. he'd get a tune out of Hogan. Well, that theory has fallen as flat as a witches tit. A must sell, sooner rather than later.

[SoccerHQ]

Most of Leeds team are established players. That Clarke kid is obviously their Grealish stand out talent. Davis only came in because Barry Douglas was ill in the warm up.

We did play Bree who only just turned 20 when SB would've put Jedinak in there.

Likes of O'Hare need loans and then we can properly judge how close they are as tbh under 23 football friendlies simply dosen't cut it as a breeding ground in the modern game.

The first team might be established players, but the entire bench was kids.  I'd say bringing the likes of O'Hare on would be beneficial to both him and us.  Even Davis would be a better option than Hogan.

"We put Scott Hogan on because he runs in behind and we keep looking to give it to him at his feet. The players have played with Scott enough to know what his strengths are."

Firstly Dean, no they haven't, and secondly, what are those strengths exactly?  Because I cannot think of a time when Hogan coming on as sub has worked for us.

Leeds have much smaller squad than we do, Bielsa's choice and it's worked out pretty well so far.

I agree Hogan was odd sub given the circumstances but simply think his confidence is shot here as he's just a bit part player like he was under SB.

Davis hasn't played for nearly a year so like Adomah I guess DS just thought he simply didn't have the fitness for the situation.

[brian green]

Yes, of course, the corollary of Woodhall's Theorem that states the reputation of a player is in inverse proportion to the time spent playing.   

[brian green]

If Davis was not fit enough to come on for 15 minutes he should not have been on the bench.  The bench is there for replacement players not decoration.

[ChicagoLion]

Most of Leeds team are established players. That Clarke kid is obviously their Grealish stand out talent. Davis only came in because Barry Douglas was ill in the warm up.

We did play Bree who only just turned 20 when SB would've put Jedinak in there.

Likes of O'Hare need loans and then we can properly judge how close they are as tbh under 23 football friendlies simply dosen't cut it as a breeding ground in the modern game.

The first team might be established players, but the entire bench was kids.  I'd say bringing the likes of O'Hare on would be beneficial to both him and us.  Even Davis would be a better option than Hogan.

"We put Scott Hogan on because he runs in behind and we keep looking to give it to him at his feet. The players have played with Scott enough to know what his strengths are."

Firstly Dean, no they haven't, and secondly, what are those strengths exactly?  Because I cannot think of a time when Hogan coming on as sub has worked for us.

Leeds have much smaller squad than we do, Bielsa's choice and it's worked out pretty well so far.

I agree Hogan was odd sub given the circumstances but simply think his confidence is shot here as he's just a bit part player like he was under SB.

Davis hasn't played for nearly a year so like Adomah I guess DS just thought he simply didn't have the fitness for the situation.

What would be the point of having him on the bench then?

[SoccerHQ]

Depends on how the game goes I guess. Some managers like to get players involved in the 18 as quickly as possible even if they're not fully fit to get them feeling involved in things.

I imagine if we're 3 up in a game Davis would get 15-20 minutes to get back in swing of things.

[Pat McMahon]

There was a moment late on where Hogan was chasing a a through ball going to their keeper, and he sort of slowed down / pulled up like Devon Lock before accelerating again and I was reminded of Risso’s Tyrion Lannister comment.

I’ve always felt he would best best playing alongside a centre forward but other than a wee spell last January he has flattered to deceive.

[brian green]

Devon Loch was very game and genuine, neither quality apparent in Scott Hogan.

[SoccerHQ]

He's just never got going here. Picked up couple of injuries in his first 4-5 months and then fallen down the pecking order.

We've spent over 20m on him and McCormack plus further amount in wages.

It's better just to loan strikers at this level like Grabban and Abraham and sign them if we go up. We wouldn't have had the issues we did last summer if we had that strategy from 2016.

[passport1]

Two points from the last nine. It looks like the ' new manager bounce' has run its course. In fairness Smith needs a chance to get some of his players in although I have reservations about the naivety of his style of football.

[pauliewalnuts]

And Hourihane getting stick because all he does is score goals!

He got double figures last season as a central midfielder. We've had plenty of seasons recently where our strikers haven't managed that and people are moaning that he's not doing more.

Christ!

I know I know but Sidwell used to chip in with goals but didn't take much to see he offered way less than Petrov, Barry and even NRC. I agree Hourihane's goals can be useful but play Bjarni in his position and he probably would get close to double figures.

We need better and DS knows better. New signing to circulate the ball better infront of the back 4 with McGinn and Grealish infront is way to go.

Sidwell scored three league goals in his time with us, so he didn't even chip in that much.

Mind you, getting subbed on on 75 minutes every week by O'Neill can't have helped.