Aston Villa v Brentford Post-Match Thread

[West Derby Villan]

Just got back, Good match, Brentford are a decent team who are really good on the break but also dirty cynical bastards, especially that little shit Maupay who is a right wind up merchant but can certainly put the ball in the net! Another shocking ref, nothing unusual there then. I felt the draw was a fair result with with McGinn and Grealish shining, Goalkeeper getting better and Greene not offering anything when he came on.

[Nastylee]

I think green needs to go on loan. He's not going to get games and he needs to progress. A bottom half championship team would be ideal.

[sickbeggar]

We played well tonight for 65-70 minutes, best this season by a mile. The criticisms are we looked knackered after that which isn't good enough and our final balls let's us down. Adomah can't cross and Grealish won't shoot, to name two examples.

If we play like that though with El Ghazi and Bolasie in the mix we'll be up there.

The defence is a concern, but that's what happens when you play a right back at left back, a centre half at right back and a midfielder at centre half. Play players in their proper positions and stop playing Jedinak at the back ffs.

I think taking Adomah off killed a fair bit of our attacking threat. Green has potential but he's looked a little boy lost so far this season.

I get the out of position stuff but I thought we were fairly strong attacking down our right throught the game with Axel bombing on and also worth remembering our out of position RB at left back is better than the only left back on our books.

who bought the other left-back and gave the right-back playing there now a free transfer before he knew the money situation?

[SoccerHQ]

I thought Neil Taylor was a good full back, I was wrong.

Just saying that's one example where an out of position player is better than a normal position one.

Anyway I was happy with how we played tonight. If we don't win on Saturday that's a game to give SB stick as Reading are a poor team.

[eamonn]

If Bolasie follows El Gaziri in the door you imagine it would have to mean Green going out on loan.
No mention of the Russian's cameo, did he get any touches?

[sickbeggar]

I thought Neil Taylor was a good full back, I was wrong.

Just saying that's one example where an out of position player is better than a normal position one.

Anyway I was happy with how we played tonight. If we don't win on Saturday that's a game to give SB stick as Reading are a poor team.

fair enough. i just think its pretty damming that we have 3 right backs arrive after Hutton plus a centre half from man U  playing there (!?) and the original occupant is still there playing on the left even though he tried to bin him in January.

[Chris Jameson]

Villa show again how we just don't have the instinct to go and win, kill a game of, once we've clawed our way back into it, on the other hand Brentford show how to win away from home against a decent Championship side, something else we haven't learnt, Bruce will feel satisfied with this.

On to the next.

I think they maybe won because of this ‘expected goals’ nonsense Percy.

They showed how to win by drawing?

[Keeno]

Brentford 18 fouls to our 9. Felt like twice as many as that.

[Percy McCarthy]

Brentford 18 fouls to our 9. Felt like twice as many as that.

If the refs refereed fouls on Grealish fairly we’d be playing against nine men most weeks.

[Ads]

Very encouraging performance.

The negatives:

Adomah in the first half had 6 opportunities in behind or one on one with their full back and put in woeful deliveries.

Green was worse.

Elmo delayed his crosses too often and the over all.open play delivery was poor, which is why we didn't hurt Brentford.

We tired after 70 minutes and it allowed them opportunities. The 2nd goal was a direct consequence of Elmo pressing out of position and leaving Tuanzebe with two. Elmo has to track to centre to allow Chester to cover, but he didn't have the legs so our shape was lost.

Absences of concentration; the corner after they'd scored and the thrown in where we tried to play off side second half-poor stuff.

The Positives;

We were better than Bayern Brentford, by a mile, for a good 70 minutes at least.

We had a lot of the ball and in dangerous areas too. Better delivery would see that territorial dominance lead to a good hiding for the opposition; it's probably why we've signed two wingers.

We worked exceptional hard off the ball, epitomized by SJM, the victim of an outrageous snide stamp.

We passed the ball in one and two touches and moved well.

Whelan. Yes Whelan. The guy can pass, pass it forwards and at tempo.

Kodjia; the boy is back. Great header, great first goal, you can see the confidence flowing.

Nyland, looked more assured. One or two wayward kicks, but I don't think he could do much for the 2nd and he made some saves.

We deserved at least a point and have set a benchmark for effort.

Better delivery will benefit us and with some additional pace to counter or stretch teritorially, I think we'll challenge.

Defensively the organisation isn't there. Tuanzebe needs to be stronger for the first and I'm not convinced by Jedinak.

Good game and any more use of papering over the cracks should come with a £1 payment to Dave Woodhall's hedge fund.

[PeterWithesShin]

A gif of the stamp on Mcginn https://twitter.com/mattlyynch/status/1032350129314062337

Sky highlights

Bruce OS interview https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1032386071533903872

[PeterWithesShin]

Dean Smith

"If you remember the incident, Mile Jedinak fell over, got up and then smashed Neal in the back of the head so, if they are looking at retrospective for Neal, then we'll do so for Jedinak.

And for anyone interested, their match thread

http://www.griffinpark.org/forums/showthread.php?t=130656

[Perthvillan]

I thought that was the best we have played this season for an hour and we should certainly have been in front. They scored a good goal but completely against the run of play in the first half. We looked good at the start of the second half but then seemed to run out of ideas and they got on top of us. From that point on they really should have won. Our defending was terrible and we were luck they weren't 3-1 ahead as that would have been curtains.
Positives: Great to see Villa playing with more pace and movement in the final third, Kodj back amongst the goals (first one a real cracker), and still unbeaten.
Negatives: The jury must still be out on our new keeper, although he did make a couple of decent saves, still think Steer should not have been loaned out. Our defence generally looked very shaky at times especially last half hour.
How many more times will Bruce play Jedinak at CB. Tuanzebe looks pretty decent, it would be great to see him alongside Chester.
We still need to get in a CB on loan.
We were very lucky at the finish, dropped points at home not great but surely we will have too much for Reading on Saturday.

[robbo1874]

Ha! I’m happy - I was following the match thread before going to work and from the posts I just thought we had lost!

Bonus point for me- not two dropped !!

Top 6 finish looks to be on the cards on the evidence of the first few games. Need to step it up Villa!! Hopefully the new signings will add some quality - still a week to go in the window too.

Now that the money problems appear to be receding, I’m wavering with my support for Bruce. Part of me would be tempted to punt him early and bring in somebody else. Who though? Anyone got wenger’s number...? Joking

[jwarry]

Play like that with three more additions and we will win this league