Yeovil Town v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

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Moreira kept a clean sheet and saved a penalty. I’m not clear about why he’s getting a lot of criticism because it’s not as if there were loads of goals being knocked in at the other end. There’s not a lot more you can ask of a goalkeeper!

He flapped at just about everything. So i'm going to rename him Flappy McFlapface.

We've had Flabby Aintgonnascore, I hope we haven't got Flappy Moreerrors now.

That said, without having seen the game, I''m with Louise: a clean sheet and a penalty saved is what the records will show.

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

Well done Conor on another well taken goal. Your goals are going to be crucial again over course of season. For Yeovil away read Peterborough at home where it could be said Bruce set the team/players up to fail, without any clear coaching, tactics or plan or at least none tthey're used to. As for Bruce it's all been said before over last 2 seasons. Players get criticised but under a different manager that understands them, they may start to show the kind of form they are capable of. For me especially with Bruce in charge I would blame him first before blaming the players, some of whom because of their inexperience are looking for guidance when none is available from Bruce or his coaching team.

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Poor performance, but job jobbed.

We must have more effort off the ball against Ipswich to go with a lot more defensive organisation.

Thought we struggled with how big and committed they were, as we played at far too slow a pace.

Good goal mind.

[Matt Collins]

Thoght the same thing this morning.

Yeah I wondered too. Would he come?

A problem w the championship is that games come so thick and fast that coaching in mid season is tough

Might be one to watch tho.

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There isn't a vacancy so I wouldn't worry about Brendan "I've got some envelopes" Rogers.

[Matt Collins]

No not at the moment

I really don't think Bruce is the man for the long term. There's still no discernible pattern of play, too often

But ironically in the short term I think best to stick with him and it is possible he'll get us promoted. Although I'd note that the last six sides to go up all had a very distinctive style.

[RussellC]

Re: Moreira; you're on a hiding to nothing coming-in to a game like that as a young keeper.  My take on it is that if Sarkic had played and kept a clean-sheet and saved a penalty, we'd all be heralding him as the next David De Gea. Moreira is only 18 months older than Sarkic.

He'll gain a lot of confidence from last night, as well as a better understanding with his teammates. I fully expect to him improve from here - exactly as Sam Johnstone did.

Let's also remember, that he's coming-in to be a 2nd choice keeper for a Championship side. Not quite sure what standard some people were expecting him to be at...

[PaulWinch again]

Re: Moreira; you're on a hiding to nothing coming-in to a game like that as a young keeper.  My take on it is that if Sarkic had played and kept a clean-sheet and save a penalty, we'd all be heralding him as the next David De Gea. Moreira is only 18 months older than Sarkic.

He'll gain a lot of confidence from last night, as well as a better understanding with his teammates. I fully expect to him improve from here - exactly as Sam Johnstone did.

Let's not also remember, that he's coming-in to be a 2nd choice keeper for a Championship side. Not quite sure what standard some people were expecting him to be at...

Agreed.

[Matt Collins]

Re: Moreira; you're on a hiding to nothing coming-in to a game like that as a young keeper.  My take on it is that if Sarkic had played and kept a clean-sheet and save a penalty, we'd all be heralding him as the next David De Gea. Moreira is only 18 months older than Sarkic.

He'll gain a lot of confidence from last night, as well as a better understanding with his teammates. I fully expect to him improve from here - exactly as Sam Johnstone did.

Let's not also remember, that he's coming-in to be a 2nd choice keeper for a Championship side. Not quite sure what standard some people were expecting him to be at...

Better than Jed steer?

[RussellC]

Re: Moreira; you're on a hiding to nothing coming-in to a game like that as a young keeper.  My take on it is that if Sarkic had played and kept a clean-sheet and save a penalty, we'd all be heralding him as the next David De Gea. Moreira is only 18 months older than Sarkic.

He'll gain a lot of confidence from last night, as well as a better understanding with his teammates. I fully expect to him improve from here - exactly as Sam Johnstone did.

Let's not also remember, that he's coming-in to be a 2nd choice keeper for a Championship side. Not quite sure what standard some people were expecting him to be at...

Better than Jed steer?

I saw nothing conclusive last night to suggest that he isn't. There was certainly nothing akin to Steer's calamitous error in Dresden just a few weeks ago.

[ktvillan]

All sounds depressingly familiar.  Despite three wins I really don't and can't feel positve about us.  Because of our negativity, lack of tempo and movement, obvious lack of coaching and discernable style,  and ultimately dependence on one or two individual players pulling something out of the bag, it's surely only a question of time before Bruce's luck runs out and the wheels fall off.  Again.  I hope that if (when) it does, this time he'll be seen for the charlatan that he is. 

For those saying the youngsters aren't up to it and need loaning out.  Bollocks.  Both RHM and Green have looked decent enough when playing together with the main first choice players and in appropriate positions.  e.g. they looked more effective when replacing Kodija and Adomah at Hull.  I'd bet some of the the others would look a lot better too if introduced in proper games gradually. Or at least no worse than Odomah or Tuanzebe have looked in some of their games.   But Bruce is too negative and cautious to do that, they don't even make the bench for most games so they cant even be given a run out if we happen to be four goals up.  Plus it would leave him no-one to chuck under the bus in games like this.  Should we also loan out players like Whelan and Taylor who look equally shite in games like this?  It's a thrown together team with square pegs in round holes and the youngsters are expected to show they are the next Grealish?  I don't think so.  A proper manager would develop them and coach them so they are ready and give them some genuine chances to prove it.

[Duncan Shaw]

Re: Moreira; you're on a hiding to nothing coming-in to a game like that as a young keeper.  My take on it is that if Sarkic had played and kept a clean-sheet and save a penalty, we'd all be heralding him as the next David De Gea. Moreira is only 18 months older than Sarkic.

He'll gain a lot of confidence from last night, as well as a better understanding with his teammates. I fully expect to him improve from here - exactly as Sam Johnstone did.

Let's not also remember, that he's coming-in to be a 2nd choice keeper for a Championship side. Not quite sure what standard some people were expecting him to be at...

Better than Jed steer?

I saw nothing conclusive last night to suggest that he isn't. There was certainly nothing akin to Steer's calamitous error in Dresden just a few weeks ago.

Plus, the thing with Steer is after the best part of two years out, he needs games.  I don't think any of us would want those games to be as our no. 1 at the moment, so yes we could keep him as back up, but that would be no good to him as he needs games.  So a loan out and a year injury free hopefully, with this guy on loan will give us a year to see if he is going to be truly good enough for us going forward.  Makes sense to me!

[garyshawsknee]

Couldn't have put it better KT.

[footyskillz]

Yes KT well put !

And to add beating teams by default till found out against any who put in chances or a half decent. Kinda like england NT though England seemingly progressive.

The villa under brucey seem stagnant. The performance is in part his responsibility and his coaching team .

I could hear him bellowing from the touch line though may be those who are there or have been villa park have heard his instructions as just heard him shout names really.

Anyway next round draw is on Thurs

[Legion]

What kt said.