The only clubs that are looking to become yo-yos are those down that want to come straight back up. Its self evidently not the aim of the club.
I don't think we are staring into any kind of abyss. It will be a massive disappointment if we go down but it won't be a total disaster. Possibly losing the likes of Grealish and McGinn will be the main blow but if it comes to it, we'll be back. That's not defeatism, that's taking it on the chin that we've not been good enough.
Quote from: chrisw1 on July 10, 2020, 08:53:57 AMQuote from: ChicagoLion on July 10, 2020, 08:51:45 AMQuote from: chrisw1 on July 10, 2020, 08:48:57 AMQuote from: brian green on July 10, 2020, 08:45:08 AMThe 'abyss' we are looking into is not the Championship or even the First Division. It is the acceptance by the fans and those that run the club that we are inferior. Anything other than ding dongs with Small Heath or Smethwick is the stuff of dreams. Defeatism hiding behind flags with lions on them.You do write some bollocks Brian.Really ? Have a good look around if you want to see some bollocks.I can see how shit we are, but that is just meaningless hyperbolic nonsence. This isn't about defeatism of fans or the board, it's about having a squad that simply isn't good enough to compete in this league, whoeversw fault that may be.In the 90s top half finishes were the minimum requirement pretty much. In the 00s we were disappointed, after four top six finishes, to not make the Champion's League. In the early 2010s premier league survival became the name of the game. Now we are looking at being a yo-yo club.Brian green is correct in what he has posted.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on July 10, 2020, 08:51:45 AMQuote from: chrisw1 on July 10, 2020, 08:48:57 AMQuote from: brian green on July 10, 2020, 08:45:08 AMThe 'abyss' we are looking into is not the Championship or even the First Division. It is the acceptance by the fans and those that run the club that we are inferior. Anything other than ding dongs with Small Heath or Smethwick is the stuff of dreams. Defeatism hiding behind flags with lions on them.You do write some bollocks Brian.Really ? Have a good look around if you want to see some bollocks.I can see how shit we are, but that is just meaningless hyperbolic nonsence. This isn't about defeatism of fans or the board, it's about having a squad that simply isn't good enough to compete in this league, whoeversw fault that may be.
Quote from: chrisw1 on July 10, 2020, 08:48:57 AMQuote from: brian green on July 10, 2020, 08:45:08 AMThe 'abyss' we are looking into is not the Championship or even the First Division. It is the acceptance by the fans and those that run the club that we are inferior. Anything other than ding dongs with Small Heath or Smethwick is the stuff of dreams. Defeatism hiding behind flags with lions on them.You do write some bollocks Brian.Really ? Have a good look around if you want to see some bollocks.
Quote from: brian green on July 10, 2020, 08:45:08 AMThe 'abyss' we are looking into is not the Championship or even the First Division. It is the acceptance by the fans and those that run the club that we are inferior. Anything other than ding dongs with Small Heath or Smethwick is the stuff of dreams. Defeatism hiding behind flags with lions on them.You do write some bollocks Brian.
The 'abyss' we are looking into is not the Championship or even the First Division. It is the acceptance by the fans and those that run the club that we are inferior. Anything other than ding dongs with Small Heath or Smethwick is the stuff of dreams. Defeatism hiding behind flags with lions on them.
I have been down to Divizion 3 with them chrisw1. When you have done that you can say I post bollocks. Otherwise show a bit of respect. Not for me I have been called a c*** by better men than you. For the Forum.
The worry is the future intent of the owners, they will be i a position to offset the investment with incoming transfer revenues.So any talk of being well placed next season is meaningless until we know where the owners are at.It’s Just like the talk of easier fixtures and winnable games.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on July 10, 2020, 09:25:20 AMThe worry is the future intent of the owners, they will be i a position to offset the investment with incoming transfer revenues.So any talk of being well placed next season is meaningless until we know where the owners are at.It’s Just like the talk of easier fixtures and winnable games.They could well decide they've had enough. No indication of that though.
Quote from: Ads on July 10, 2020, 09:29:36 AMQuote from: ChicagoLion on July 10, 2020, 09:25:20 AMThe worry is the future intent of the owners, they will be i a position to offset the investment with incoming transfer revenues.So any talk of being well placed next season is meaningless until we know where the owners are at.It’s Just like the talk of easier fixtures and winnable games.They could well decide they've had enough. No indication of that though. It is a slight worry though. Businesses all over the world are having to reassess their positions. As you say no indication so far but similarly no reason to assume that they are immune (no pun intended).