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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5535 on: April 17, 2024, 11:28:03 AM »
I’m ignoring that Bucks picture as it has no relevance to football, it’s a basketball stadium.

The one in Egypt is ok but giving off retro Munich Olympics vibes.

Indeed, the Bucks stadium is for an indoor sport, and a playing surface 10 times smaller than a football pitch.  It looks like a box because that's what basketball stadiums often look like.

There are good new stadiums, and crap ones.  If we are to move, I trust our owners to deliver the former while our neighbours focus on building the latter.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5536 on: April 17, 2024, 11:28:42 AM »
https://www.ft.com/content/faeff9d5-d803-4cf8-9cd9-961ff1557540
Interesting article about the trend for new stadiums across Europe, with Spurs being held up as the hallmark.
All the same points we know about, but after reading it, it definitely makes me think our owners are on the same path.
A multi use sports/entertainment hub in a big city, generating revenue all year round, is definitely what a couple of billionaires will be interested in.
Improving the toilets, bars, trains and pies at VP? Probably not really.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5537 on: April 17, 2024, 11:30:48 AM »
I’m ignoring that Bucks picture as it has no relevance to football, it’s a basketball stadium.

The one in Egypt is ok but giving off retro Munich Olympics vibes.

I should've used the image Risso went with but for me the relevence is more that it's a unique stadium and that there are choices in it's design which were put there to ensure that, that's all. Again the point was to show that the idea that we wouldn't do anything to make it feel like a stadium designed specifically for Aston Villa is silly, of course we would, just like most major stadium developments do. The 'but it looks like a modern stadium' argument is frustrating because of course it fucking does, that's what it is, just dismissing everything that doesn't look exactly like Villa Park is silly because Villa Park doesbn't look exactly like Villa Park from 30 years ago, and that didn't look like Villa Park from 30 years earlier.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5538 on: April 17, 2024, 11:38:35 AM »
I remember seeing the new Huddersfield stadium when it was first built in the early 90s. I think it was the first of its type, ie ultra modern looking with the white tubular steel structures on the stands. Of course most new builds have followed the same ideas since then, but at the time I thought it looked brilliantly futuristic and sexy.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5539 on: April 17, 2024, 11:43:22 AM »
Does anyone think this is just going to be increased seats in the current Villa Park or a brand new stadium?  Anyone in the know? 

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5540 on: April 17, 2024, 11:46:08 AM »
TBH, someone mentioned the Allianz Arena and if they had something like that but modernised more like the Vegas Eye, I suspect that could become the tourist attraction to make it more then a football stadium that some are asking for.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5541 on: April 17, 2024, 11:49:15 AM »
TBH, someone mentioned the Allianz Arena and if they had something like that but modernised more like the Vegas Eye, I suspect that could become the tourist attraction to make it more then a football stadium that some are asking for.

The Allianz Arena always reminds me of the outside of the Bullring

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5542 on: April 17, 2024, 11:54:12 AM »
That is a really Selfridge attitude to take.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5543 on: April 17, 2024, 11:57:39 AM »
They are still reconfiguring this summer to add 2000 to 3000 extra seats?

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5544 on: April 17, 2024, 12:01:04 PM »
Does anyone think this is just going to be increased seats in the current Villa Park or a brand new stadium?  Anyone in the know? 

Have a look on Small Heath Alliance.  They seem to know everything about it.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5545 on: April 17, 2024, 12:01:50 PM »
They are still reconfiguring this summer to add 2000 to 3000 extra seats?

That's just a short-term, sticking plaster. They haven't brought these new guys and their investment in to rearrange the deckchairs.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5546 on: April 17, 2024, 12:04:27 PM »
They are still reconfiguring this summer to add 2000 to 3000 extra seats?

That is what Heck stated when he canned the North Stand. I expect it will be filling in the North Corners to get those seats in. But that might also be the kibosh on stopping on that land for any new stadium as we the extra seats wouldn't be worth it if we were knocking down the stands for two seasons, but would be if we were building elsewhere and moving in after 3-4 years.
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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5547 on: April 17, 2024, 12:07:18 PM »
Surely they'd need planning permission to do that though? Haven't heard of anything going in, and normally everything like that gets picked up by somebody.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5548 on: April 17, 2024, 12:10:28 PM »
There are loads of great new-ish stadiums, the Aviva in Dublin is great, the new Athletico Madrid stadium is fantastic, Soccer City in South Africa is stunning and utterly unique.

More off the wall but I really like how bold the Mercedes-Benz stadium in Atlanta is, I know loads of people will hate it but it's memorable and different.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5549 on: April 17, 2024, 12:28:33 PM »
Surely they'd need planning permission to do that though? Haven't heard of anything going in, and normally everything like that gets picked up by somebody.
Yes, I can't see how they're going to squeeze in 2-3000 seats.  If they do I just hope it's a better effort than the Wolves temp stand.  At least the existing concourses and facilities in the North are spacious and modern enough to easily cope with a few k more seats.

 


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