Quote from: Risso on April 16, 2024, 08:43:04 AMI honestly don't think that Nas, Wes and the new Atairos lot will think that they won't bother with a new project because a station is having a bit of an upgrade. It's not our station, and presumably it's not our cash being used to do it up.That's not the point. The head of WMCA would not be making statements about rebuilding Witton Station if we were leaving. What would be the point? The station is perfectly adequate for daily usage.
I honestly don't think that Nas, Wes and the new Atairos lot will think that they won't bother with a new project because a station is having a bit of an upgrade. It's not our station, and presumably it's not our cash being used to do it up.
Quote from: oldhill_avfc on April 15, 2024, 07:01:58 PMQuote from: PeterWithe on April 15, 2024, 06:56:14 PMHave we ever seen gentrification in Birmingham outside of the city centre? Maybe Stirchley ? Genuine question as I don't really spend any time in the South of the city.Harbourne and kings Heath dragged up Stirchley. Which is down to the University and QE, rather than anything intrinsic to the area itself.So if it can be done there then why not Aston?As an aside to the main issue, Harborne and Kings Heath didn't drag up Stirchley. It's been predominantly local people with vision opening up some wonderful bars, breweries, cafes, restaurants etc.
Quote from: PeterWithe on April 15, 2024, 06:56:14 PMHave we ever seen gentrification in Birmingham outside of the city centre? Maybe Stirchley ? Genuine question as I don't really spend any time in the South of the city.Harbourne and kings Heath dragged up Stirchley. Which is down to the University and QE, rather than anything intrinsic to the area itself.So if it can be done there then why not Aston?
Have we ever seen gentrification in Birmingham outside of the city centre? Maybe Stirchley ? Genuine question as I don't really spend any time in the South of the city.
The park is now one-seventh its original size.
Quote from: The Edge on April 16, 2024, 08:51:22 AMQuote from: Risso on April 16, 2024, 08:43:04 AMI honestly don't think that Nas, Wes and the new Atairos lot will think that they won't bother with a new project because a station is having a bit of an upgrade. It's not our station, and presumably it's not our cash being used to do it up.That's not the point. The head of WMCA would not be making statements about rebuilding Witton Station if we were leaving. What would be the point? The station is perfectly adequate for daily usage.Andy Street wouldn’t be up to date with what the club want to do. And as others said, it’s for the Euros and we’ll still be here anyway.
Quote from: 144 Hard Boiled Eggs on April 16, 2024, 10:10:33 AMQuote from: oldhill_avfc on April 15, 2024, 07:01:58 PMQuote from: PeterWithe on April 15, 2024, 06:56:14 PMHave we ever seen gentrification in Birmingham outside of the city centre? Maybe Stirchley ? Genuine question as I don't really spend any time in the South of the city.Harbourne and kings Heath dragged up Stirchley. Which is down to the University and QE, rather than anything intrinsic to the area itself.So if it can be done there then why not Aston?As an aside to the main issue, Harborne and Kings Heath didn't drag up Stirchley. It's been predominantly local people with vision opening up some wonderful bars, breweries, cafes, restaurants etc.This
Quote from: Chris Smith on April 16, 2024, 09:48:49 AMQuote from: Risso on April 16, 2024, 09:28:58 AMQuote from: Chris Smith on April 16, 2024, 09:06:44 AMQuote from: Risso on April 16, 2024, 09:01:40 AMQuote from: Chris Smith on April 16, 2024, 08:57:58 AMDo you think we’d be wanted any more in a different area?In a less congested residential area closer to the city centre, absolutely. The businesses round there would love it. Which area, which businesses?I've no idea. I don't know Birmingham that well, I'm not a chartered surveyor or property developer, and I'm not a billionaire who's just appointed a team of specialist land developers to the board.So all of those same reasons apply to why we’re not qualified to make the decision to leave the current site in the first place. Newsflash Chris, whether we're qualified or not, we don't get to make the decision. It's just a discussion. You know like, we don't get to choose who plays out of Moreno or Digne despite our own preferences for one player or another. It's a discussion board, and people are giving their opinions. The club have cancelled plans that had been approved to replace the North. They've now got outside investment from a firm specialising in property development, and have appointed directors from that firm to the board. So that suggests either a complete redevelopment of Villa Park, or building a new stadium.And in my opinion, the easiest way for that firm to make money is to build a new stadium that is part of a big new mixed use development away from Aston. And I still don't know where that would be, sorry.
Quote from: Risso on April 16, 2024, 09:28:58 AMQuote from: Chris Smith on April 16, 2024, 09:06:44 AMQuote from: Risso on April 16, 2024, 09:01:40 AMQuote from: Chris Smith on April 16, 2024, 08:57:58 AMDo you think we’d be wanted any more in a different area?In a less congested residential area closer to the city centre, absolutely. The businesses round there would love it. Which area, which businesses?I've no idea. I don't know Birmingham that well, I'm not a chartered surveyor or property developer, and I'm not a billionaire who's just appointed a team of specialist land developers to the board.So all of those same reasons apply to why we’re not qualified to make the decision to leave the current site in the first place.
Quote from: Chris Smith on April 16, 2024, 09:06:44 AMQuote from: Risso on April 16, 2024, 09:01:40 AMQuote from: Chris Smith on April 16, 2024, 08:57:58 AMDo you think we’d be wanted any more in a different area?In a less congested residential area closer to the city centre, absolutely. The businesses round there would love it. Which area, which businesses?I've no idea. I don't know Birmingham that well, I'm not a chartered surveyor or property developer, and I'm not a billionaire who's just appointed a team of specialist land developers to the board.
Quote from: Risso on April 16, 2024, 09:01:40 AMQuote from: Chris Smith on April 16, 2024, 08:57:58 AMDo you think we’d be wanted any more in a different area?In a less congested residential area closer to the city centre, absolutely. The businesses round there would love it. Which area, which businesses?
Quote from: Chris Smith on April 16, 2024, 08:57:58 AMDo you think we’d be wanted any more in a different area?In a less congested residential area closer to the city centre, absolutely. The businesses round there would love it.
Do you think we’d be wanted any more in a different area?
Has there been a consultation to residents regarding that ?
Has anyone asked Royal Mail what they think?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on April 16, 2024, 12:18:53 PMThe park is now one-seventh its original size.I'm sure like most stately homes, at one point centuries ago it probably had most of the local land around it.
Ultimately, Aston Hall is council owned. A council who are bankrupt. I'm sure they'd accept a generous offer.
Quote from: LeeS on April 16, 2024, 12:54:44 PMUltimately, Aston Hall is council owned. A council who are bankrupt. I'm sure they'd accept a generous offer. It's Grade 1 listed, so who owns it isn't really isn't the issue.