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Offline VILLA MOLE

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4140 on: April 18, 2022, 05:29:19 PM »
Can we have a gable, please?

like Clarke ?   but yes that would be fantastic

You mean Clarke Gabl?


i have spelt clark wrong haven’t i ? 😳😃

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4141 on: April 18, 2022, 06:34:57 PM »
Can we have a gable, please?

like Clarke ?   but yes that would be fantastic

You mean Clarke Gabl?

i have spelt clark wrong haven’t i ? 😳😃

Don't worry, it's not the first time it's happened on here. :)

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4142 on: April 18, 2022, 06:42:44 PM »
I am not sure what they can do with the DE. Any changes that affect the residents of Witton Lane will be contested and take a very long time to get underway if at all.
The opportunity to increase capacity, comfort and revenue is the North Stand.
The North Stand is definitely the easy win out of the 4 stands. The Witton Lane is a tricky one, I'd guess that's maybe the place to consider safe standing as a way to increase capacity without changing the profile of the stand too much.

Increasing capacity is just going to make the accompanying facilties even less adequate, though. I'm not sure we would be allowed to do that, there isn't enough room to add in the extra fire escapes and toilets that a larger crowd requires by law.
The accompanying facilities aren't a problem if you're knocking it down, though, surely? Demolish it, rebuild with safe standing, can be roughly the same size without affecting the light for anyone nearby .. could quite reasonably get a 4k+ capacity increase to push us close to 55k with the new North Stand.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4143 on: April 18, 2022, 07:03:41 PM »
Wonder if it's feasible to sink the pitch a bit.

I always like grounds where you're effectively looking down at the action. Loads of Italian and Spanish stadia are like this and probably best example in England is Charlton's away end.

Would mean everyone in Holte and Trinity is looking down on the action and could possibly get a couple of extra thousand seats for the Witton although lots to do for a couple more thousand and as said you'd still need extra entrance and exit seats and can't see where they'd go.

The water table would scupper that idea, literally.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4144 on: April 18, 2022, 07:15:36 PM »
Wonder if it's feasible to sink the pitch a bit.

I always like grounds where you're effectively looking down at the action. Loads of Italian and Spanish stadia are like this and probably best example in England is Charlton's away end.

Would mean everyone in Holte and Trinity is looking down on the action and could possibly get a couple of extra thousand seats for the Witton although lots to do for a couple more thousand and as said you'd still need extra entrance and exit seats and can't see where they'd go.

The water table would scupper that idea, literally.

Isn't the pitch where the boating like was?

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4145 on: April 18, 2022, 07:58:28 PM »
Wonder if it's feasible to sink the pitch a bit.

I always like grounds where you're effectively looking down at the action. Loads of Italian and Spanish stadia are like this and probably best example in England is Charlton's away end.

Would mean everyone in Holte and Trinity is looking down on the action and could possibly get a couple of extra thousand seats for the Witton although lots to do for a couple more thousand and as said you'd still need extra entrance and exit seats and can't see where they'd go.

The water table would scupper that idea, literally.

Isn't the pitch where the boating like was?

I think so, but although that was man-made so wouldn't be a problem, there's been trouble with the water levels since Ansell's closed.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4146 on: April 18, 2022, 08:06:48 PM »
Wonder if it's feasible to sink the pitch a bit.

I always like grounds where you're effectively looking down at the action. Loads of Italian and Spanish stadia are like this and probably best example in England is Charlton's away end.

Would mean everyone in Holte and Trinity is looking down on the action and could possibly get a couple of extra thousand seats for the Witton although lots to do for a couple more thousand and as said you'd still need extra entrance and exit seats and can't see where they'd go.

The water table would scupper that idea, literally.

Isn't the pitch where the boating like was?

I think so, but although that was man-made so wouldn't be a problem, there's been trouble with the water levels since Ansell's closed.
Sinking the pitch would be expensive and complicated and what would it actually achieve? It's one of the craziest ideas I've heard on this subject.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4147 on: April 18, 2022, 08:14:02 PM »
Isn't it already below street level? From recollection of my relatively recent relocation to the bottom left hand corner of the Holte adjacent to the lower Trinity, in front of the wheelchair spaces, there's 13 rows that have to walk upstairs to get out of the ground.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4148 on: April 18, 2022, 08:35:03 PM »
Struggling to think of anything more disruptive, difficult, impractical and not hugely rewarding (think about the maths in this) than lowering the pitch.

It reminds me of "Raise the Titanic? It would have been cheaper to lower the Atlantic".

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4149 on: April 18, 2022, 10:05:32 PM »
If there was more space on the Witton Lane side, then lowering the pitch could have been a way to retain the old Trinity, if we were prepared to rebuild the Witton End and Witton Lane stands at the same time (notwithstanding any water table issues). The old Porto stadium did this, but was much easier due to being a bowl. There isn’t a precedent in the UK for such a drastic reconfiguration of an existing ground as far as I’m aware. The pitch was moved at Molineaux, but they ended up with that massive space around the pitch, as they couldn’t afford to complete the plan until Jack Haywood came along.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4150 on: April 18, 2022, 10:31:26 PM »
What if we raise all the houses? They won't complain about us adding a tier or two onto the Witton Lane Stand if they all live in thirty storey properties. There can't be that many houses in Aston, would only cost a few quid.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4151 on: April 18, 2022, 10:34:56 PM »
Those houses are more likely to be razed than raised.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4152 on: April 19, 2022, 01:05:44 AM »
The logistics of reconfiguring the stadium are one thing, but how on earth would an extra 10,000 - 15,000 people get in and out of the area on a matchday? 

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4153 on: April 19, 2022, 02:00:42 AM »
The logistics of reconfiguring the stadium are one thing, but how on earth would an extra 10,000 - 15,000 people get in and out of the area on a matchday? 
Let’s hope they are all wankers and leave early.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4154 on: April 19, 2022, 06:35:30 AM »
The logistics of reconfiguring the stadium are one thing, but how on earth would an extra 10,000 - 15,000 people get in and out of the area on a matchday? 
Let’s hope they are all wankers and leave early.
Ouch

 


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