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Online dave shelley

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2565 on: September 09, 2021, 07:42:42 PM »
My brother-in-law did one of those DNA test thingy's, it came back with ambiguous links to all over the place which we all felt was a bit odd...the feckers have hardly ever left the village!

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2566 on: September 09, 2021, 08:08:50 PM »
I keep clicking on here expecting some breaking news about Wes and / or Nas ...

... oh, and despite my name, I have no Welsh in me; as far as I can discern from 200 years of family tree!

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2567 on: September 10, 2021, 12:06:47 AM »
I am sure there was some Radio 4 thing years back that basically refuted all of these DNA tests.

From memory I think it was because the databases at the time were too vague (possibly).

Yep, it's largely bollocks, sadly. Due to migration and interbreeding in Eurasia, unless you're of largely African, Indigenous American or Indigenous Australiasian, it's all quite ham-fisted.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2568 on: September 10, 2021, 12:25:40 AM »
I am sure there was some Radio 4 thing years back that basically refuted all of these DNA tests.

From memory I think it was because the databases at the time were too vague (possibly).

Yep, it's largely bollocks, sadly. Due to migration and interbreeding in Eurasia, unless you're of largely African, Indigenous American or Indigenous Australiasian, it's all quite ham-fisted.

I think you underestimate the effects of being ham-fisted! He stilll hasn't recovered.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2569 on: September 10, 2021, 08:51:54 AM »
I am sure there was some Radio 4 thing years back that basically refuted all of these DNA tests.

From memory I think it was because the databases at the time were too vague (possibly).

Yep, it's largely bollocks, sadly. Due to migration and interbreeding in Eurasia, unless you're of largely African, Indigenous American or Indigenous Australiasian, it's all quite ham-fisted.

I think you underestimate the effects of being ham-fisted! He stilll hasn't recovered.

Haha, yes, I don't know what was wrong with the old swab test.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2570 on: September 10, 2021, 09:19:31 AM »
I am sure there was some Radio 4 thing years back that basically refuted all of these DNA tests.

From memory I think it was because the databases at the time were too vague (possibly).

Thereís got to be some truth in them because it linked me with cousins in Ireland and the US that I know Iím related to.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2571 on: September 10, 2021, 09:30:30 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05vy4kb

It may have been this - it is over 5 years old now so perhaps the databases have improved and hence become more instructive.

Apologies, it is the below from 2018

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p05z4m57
« Last Edit: September 10, 2021, 09:33:47 AM by aev »

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2572 on: September 10, 2021, 09:32:09 AM »
I am sure there was some Radio 4 thing years back that basically refuted all of these DNA tests.

From memory I think it was because the databases at the time were too vague (possibly).

Thereís got to be some truth in them because it linked me with cousins in Ireland and the US that I know Iím related to.

Yeah they're effective up to a point, but the whole 'you are 13.2% Viking, 3% Spanish, 41.7% Klingon' is balls, according to my brother-in-law who is a biochemist. So they can trace 3 or 4 generations back, and give you an approximation of your 'origin' based on geographical probability. That's my understanding anyway.

Ancestry and stuff is a different matter, of course, because they're based on archives.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2573 on: September 10, 2021, 09:43:56 AM »
I am sure there was some Radio 4 thing years back that basically refuted all of these DNA tests.

From memory I think it was because the databases at the time were too vague (possibly).

Thereís got to be some truth in them because it linked me with cousins in Ireland and the US that I know Iím related to.

Yeah they're effective up to a point, but the whole 'you are 13.2% Viking, 3% Spanish, 41.7% Klingon' is balls, according to my brother-in-law who is a biochemist. So they can trace 3 or 4 generations back, and give you an approximation of your 'origin' based on geographical probability. That's my understanding anyway.

Ancestry and stuff is a different matter, of course, because they're based on archives.

I was told that the ethnicity suggestions use an algorithm to compare your results against a database to draw up a best estimate of your heritage and that theyíre probably accurate to a continental level but anything more exact is less certain.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2574 on: September 10, 2021, 09:54:17 AM »
Yep, sounds about right, they can trace certain DNA which suggest you have ancestors from an area but it's not 100%. That said, someone bought a kit for my parents a couple of years ago and becuase of 1 of the markers that came up we managed to fill a gap in the ancestry chart we'd been trying to do and we got it back to about the 1500s in the end having been stuck in the 1800s before, was all because my dad had some germanic markers that we never expected.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2575 on: September 10, 2021, 10:19:13 AM »
The Ancestry DNA stuff is useful if you're really researching your tree - it has helped me out with a few things where I had doubt, and confirmed a few things where I'd taken an educated guess.

I also had someone approach me who was trying to find who a relative's father was, which he solved using some stuff in my tree, some geographical locations, and some DNA links that I shared with her. She'd basically lived 75 years with no idea who her father was and managed to find out thanks to DNA testing.

The 'you are 10% martian' stuff is really just a gimmick though.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2576 on: September 10, 2021, 11:10:29 AM »
Yeah that's the thing, it's useful as one tool of many. It's just that I've had enough people bore me to tears about how their results have made them want to 'reconnect with their 1.5% Greek roots' or whatever.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2577 on: September 10, 2021, 11:24:12 AM »
Yeah that's the thing, it's useful as one tool of many. It's just that I've had enough people bore me to tears about how their results have made them want to 'reconnect with their 1.5% Greek roots' or whatever.

Tell them can do it like everyone else, on a Friday at about 11 o'clock after 8 pints. With all the salad, lemon and chilli (none of that mayo that looks like jizz though).

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2578 on: September 10, 2021, 12:05:28 PM »
So...back on topic....Wes and Nas - is there any far away, unexpected ancestry in our two leaders?

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2579 on: September 10, 2021, 03:44:43 PM »
So...back on topic....Wes and Nas - is there any far away, unexpected ancestry in our two leaders?

Dead certain that if Wes had any political ambitions in the USA then Irish heritage would be immediately uncovered.

 


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