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Offline phantom limb

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #330 on: June 02, 2018, 12:06:50 AM »
The more I read about it the more this whole FFP business just sounds like a load of bollocks.

Offline claret+blue ed

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #331 on: June 02, 2018, 12:07:04 AM »
One thing that we can do to help is go to games, we had 38k+ at Wembley, if the same amount went to VP every home game, it would generate roughly an extra £6m

That would be a good start

UTV

Offline TheMalandro

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #332 on: June 02, 2018, 12:16:51 AM »
The difference is we're Aston Villa and nobody gives a good fuck about these other clubs outside their fan base. We sell copy and bait clicks.

Small Heath going to the wall? So fucking what.

So, you think other people give a fuck because we are Aston Villa?

Unfortunately, you are wrong.

At least you are consistent.

Offline itbrvilla

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #333 on: June 02, 2018, 12:23:19 AM »
The difference is we're Aston Villa and nobody gives a good fuck about these other clubs outside their fan base. We sell copy and bait clicks.

Small Heath going to the wall? So fucking what.

So, you think other people give a fuck because we are Aston Villa?

Unfortunately, you are wrong.

At least you are consistent.
Spot on. Holloway was right as much as we hated hearing it.

Offline eamonn

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #334 on: June 02, 2018, 12:30:02 AM »
As I said in another thread I read somewhere that 12 clubs have already failed ffp in the season just ended.  Blues are one.  I am guessing Derby might be another.  The teams that went up might be others.  So why the fcuk and when the fcuk is something going to be happening to them?

I posted Yesterday that Derby are losing £3mil a month and facing a £10mil fine for FFP

Shef Wednesday made a big loss and could have issues also

Fulham and Cardiff had run out of TV cash so could of been in trouble too and Wolves would likely be in our position now

QPR its well known they have a £40mil fine they are continuing to fight ,there's hilights the flaw of the system they made a loss their owners paid off the debt but the EFL still says its a loss so want to punish them .The whole point was to avoid a Portsmouth situation but when an owner actually has the cash and pays the loss's the EFL still feel the need to take action ..

Birmingham filled accounts late and are apparently in trouble

Most clubs in the league are struggling money wise and unless a club sells someone for a large fee I think the transfer fee's in the league will be low this season

Interesting if true about Derby. An Ipswich fan at work was telling me that they interviewed Lampard for their vacant manager's position but his salary demands were too high. Next thing he's off to Derby on a three year contract and apparently under no pressure to get them promoted next season.

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #335 on: June 02, 2018, 12:31:31 AM »
The difference is we're Aston Villa and nobody gives a good fuck about these other clubs outside their fan base. We sell copy and bait clicks.

Small Heath going to the wall? So fucking what.

So, you think other people give a fuck because we are Aston Villa?

Unfortunately, you are wrong.

At least you are consistent.

Tell me more about Hilary.

Guess we're taking up column inches because nobody cares.

As the late Nasher would say #facepalm
« Last Edit: June 02, 2018, 12:34:09 AM by Ads »

Offline Ads

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #336 on: June 02, 2018, 12:41:41 AM »
The difference is we're Aston Villa and nobody gives a good fuck about these other clubs outside their fan base. We sell copy and bait clicks.

Small Heath going to the wall? So fucking what.

So, you think other people give a fuck because we are Aston Villa?

Unfortunately, you are wrong.

At least you are consistent.
Spot on. Holloway was right as much as we hated hearing it.

We've had many spells of being half arsed. But who hasn't.

Not famous? I'd say you've been living in a jungle on a remote Thai island in the Gulf of Thai, but then I've had a conversation with a man whose English extended to Ashley Young and John Carew when mentioning I was Villa. Give the self loathing a knock on the head. It's unbecoming of a gentlemen.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2018, 12:44:46 AM by Ads »

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #337 on: June 02, 2018, 03:39:11 AM »
If we were to fail FFP it would be a much bigger story than if sha did. sha failing it would be a bigger story than if Burton did, and so on. It's pretty obvious really.

Offline AsTallAsLions

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #338 on: June 02, 2018, 04:54:03 AM »
The difference is we're Aston Villa and nobody gives a good fuck about these other clubs outside their fan base. We sell copy and bait clicks.

Small Heath going to the wall? So fucking what.

So, you think other people give a fuck because we are Aston Villa?

Unfortunately, you are wrong.

At least you are consistent.
Spot on. Holloway was right as much as we hated hearing it.

We've had many spells of being half arsed. But who hasn't.

Not famous? I'd say you've been living in a jungle on a remote Thai island in the Gulf of Thai, but then I've had a conversation with a man whose English extended to Ashley Young and John Carew when mentioning I was Villa. Give the self loathing a knock on the head. It's unbecoming of a gentlemen.

We're Aston Villa, we'll fail if we like.

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #339 on: June 02, 2018, 07:08:00 AM »
If we were to fail FFP it would be a much bigger story than if sha did. sha failing it would be a bigger story than if Burton did, and so on. It's pretty obvious really.

Yep. Biggest club in the league being perceived to have a crisis of as yet undetermined proportions will be bigger news than much else going on down here.

I appreciate it's de rigueur for a clutch to have a pop though.

Offline Villafirst

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #340 on: June 02, 2018, 07:29:19 AM »
FFP is a disaster for the Championship. If you manage to get up, it's inverably a struggle to survive. It actually protects the big boys. The financial gap between the PL and Championship is far too disproportionate.

Offline andyh

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #341 on: June 02, 2018, 08:20:57 AM »
Wasn’t FFP originally set up to prevent clubs overspending and subsequently going to the wall like Portsmouth or Aldershot etc?

It now seems to have morphed into a money-making machine for the footballing authorities and stifling competition amongst football clubs who ‘could’ afford to incur debt but are now not allowed to.

Offline Nunkin1965

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #342 on: June 02, 2018, 08:25:32 AM »
Wasn’t FFP originally set up to prevent clubs overspending and subsequently going to the wall like Portsmouth or Aldershot etc?

It now seems to have morphed into a money-making machine for the footballing authorities and stifling competition amongst football clubs who ‘could’ afford to incur debt but are now not allowed to.

It's something I've always wondered also.
It doesn't seem to fit the purpose if half of the League could be falling foul to it.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #343 on: June 02, 2018, 08:29:43 AM »
When you are looking at the numbers they are talking about in fines, what you are allowed to lose etc. and compare it with the actual value of clubs in the Championship, something doesn't stack up.

Offline PeterWithe

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #344 on: June 02, 2018, 08:30:31 AM »
I wonder if we are hoping to get back some of the corporate match day business that we lost lock stock and barrel to the Albion in relegation?

 


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