Championship 2018-2019

[Brassneck]

We will draw a few games under Smith I think, just the style of play will mean that Brentford have drawn a fair few this season and Walsall did in many of his seasons.

Really? Fuck sake...we've been drawing ad nauseum since 2001...

Brentford drew 6 out of 12 under him this season.

Same amount as we did under Bruce then.

We have better players than Brentford.  We have more chance of turning those draws into wins.

[Brassneck]

We will draw a few games under Smith I think, just the style of play will mean that Brentford have drawn a fair few this season and Walsall did in many of his seasons.

Way I look at it 20 more wins gets us in the top 6 so that's more realistic than however many gets us top 2.

We're 7 points off top spot in a very average division and 3 points off a playoff position. And let's not pretend Boro are some outstanding runaway train, or in fact any of the sides above us are in any way that much better. Let's start with bridging the gap in the next few weeks to 3 or 4 points. It's not that difficult.

Agree 7 points is nothing at this point.  However, we have a very difficult December.  Thanks to Bruce, we've thrown away the advantage that the opening fixtures gave us.  We now have to go out and perform against the better sides.  3 or 4 points at the turn of the year and I'd be quietly confident that we could do it.

[paul_e]

We will draw a few games under Smith I think, just the style of play will mean that Brentford have drawn a fair few this season and Walsall did in many of his seasons.

Way I look at it 20 more wins gets us in the top 6 so that's more realistic than however many gets us top 2.

We're 7 points off top spot in a very average division and 3 points off a playoff position. And let's not pretend Boro are some outstanding runaway train, or in fact any of the sides above us are in any way that much better. Let's start with bridging the gap in the next few weeks to 3 or 4 points. It's not that difficult.

Agree 7 points is nothing at this point.  However, we have a very difficult December.  Thanks to Bruce, we've thrown away the advantage that the opening fixtures gave us.  We now have to go out and perform against the better sides.  3 or 4 points at the turn of the year and I'd be quietly confident that we could do it.

The flipside of that is that most of our games between now and the new year are against teams we're going to be competing with for promotion so there's plenty of 6 pointers in there so we have only ourselves to blame if we don't close the gap. We need to put the teams like QPR and Bolton away though, no point beating the top sides and then losing to the relegation battlers (like we did after Wolves).

We've got 12 games left in 2018, if we can get something around 2 points per game from those then we'll be top 6 and with no one looking like they're going to storm away that gives us a platform to step up from. With our squad and the new attacking intent I think we're going to have a run of 7-8 wins on the bounce at some point so avoiding runs of draws/defeats the rest of the time so we keep ticking over is the key, that's how you get out of this division. 3-4 games without a win is damaging but recoverable, doing it 2-3 times in a season is what did for Bruce and he's already given us our shitty run for this year.

[footyskillz]

Form team

QPR 20 points in last 10 matches after hearing Sheffield Wednesday last night .

Birmingham 3 victories in a row and unbeaten in 10.

Top 2
Boro only manged a 0-0 draw at home to Rotherham which was surprising and Sheffield United were held 1-1 late equaliser .

Today wba play derby

[mr underhill]

QPR will spank us like they did that infamous night at VP unless we raise our attitude hugely.

[Clampy]

I don't think there is anything wrong with our attitude. It served us well enough against Swansea when we saw the game out. We just need to improve on the footballing front.

[Ad@m]

QPR will spank us like they did that infamous night at VP unless we raise our attitude hugely.

What night?

I remember a 3-3 where we scored in the last minute...

[garyshawsknee]

Didn't they beat us after the Wolves win ?

[Ad@m]

Didn't they beat us after the Wolves win ?

So they did - I'm blaming old age - that game had completely slipped my mind!

[garyshawsknee]

I wish it had slipped my mind Ad@m !!

[Matt Collins]

Looking at our fixture list I've got a feeling it's going to get worse beefier it gets better. I reckon we might well be bottom six or so by the time we face west brom in December

Think Friday will be very tough. Here's hoping we can pull something out of the bag like we did there last year

[footyskillz]

Lampards Derby won 4 -1 away to WBA

Lewis grabban scored 2 in beating Bolton for Forest .

Leeds with comfortable win and back to top league with 2-0 home win v Ipswich .

These 3 teams have a manager that only started this season right and are managing to implement ideas .

Leeds Forest Derby all to be up there along with Middlesboro

Middlesboro v Derby
And Forest Leeds Saturday they are interesting matches .

[ASHTONVILLA]

Good result for PNE

[Rudy Can't Fail]

It's play-offs at best for us now I think, 11 points behind leaders Sheff Utd.

[SoccerHQ]

This is a repeat of 16/17 I'm afraid.