The International Cricket Thread 2018

[taylorsworkrate]

Happy for Curran, I thought he had a decent series in the tests given how it came about without really getting the rewards so a 5fer in the ODIs will help him a lot.

I think the limited over formats are going to be his opportunity for a while. I still think he looks a fair way short at test level at the moment.

[tomd2103]

Happy for Curran, I thought he had a decent series in the tests given how it came about without really getting the rewards so a 5fer in the ODIs will help him a lot.

I think the limited over formats are going to be his opportunity for a while. I still think he looks a fair way short at test level at the moment.

I agree, but some of those in-swingers at the end of Australia's innings were vicious. 

[paul_e]

Oh I agree as well, remember he was 4th/5th choice for that role behind Stokes/Finn/Overton/Wood so that alone suggests that they knew he wasn't quite ready and he was there as cover but we just didn't have much choice but to play him.  That doesn't change the fact that he bowled better than his figures would suggest and just didn't really get any luck in the tests so I'm really pleased for him to have a good memory to take home from the trip.

[tomd2103]

Oh I agree as well, remember he was 4th/5th choice for that role behind Stokes/Finn/Overton/Wood so that alone suggests that they knew he wasn't quite ready and he was there as cover but we just didn't have much choice but to play him.  That doesn't change the fact that he bowled better than his figures would suggest and just didn't really get any luck in the tests so I'm really pleased for him to have a good memory to take home from the trip.

Listened to a bit of the cricket show on Radio Five last night and they were discussing him.  Michael Vaughan was saying he could do with developing an extra couple of yards of pace, but he said he was really impressed with his attitude and approach.  It's a healthy situation really where a young kid comes in, has a taste of international cricket and then the onus is on him to improve and force his way into the side on a regular basis.   

The conversation then went on to the 50 over side and where Stokes will fit in when he returns.  Vaughan said we should look to go really take the attack to sides in the early stages and said he thought Stokes should bat at three. 

[tomd2103]

Bit more about the kid who has been discussed a bit on here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42828735

This seems a bit harsh to be honest:

"Under ECB rules, introduced in 2012, Archer, who has an English father and British passport, is not eligible to play for England until the winter of 2022 when he will have completed the seven-year residency period required for players who arrive in England after their 18th birthday".

I think lengthy residency periods are necessary in sport, but surely they shouldn't apply if you have a parent who comes from the country you want to play for?

[paul_e]

Bit more about the kid who has been discussed a bit on here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42828735

This seems a bit harsh to be honest:

"Under ECB rules, introduced in 2012, Archer, who has an English father and British passport, is not eligible to play for England until the winter of 2022 when he will have completed the seven-year residency period required for players who arrive in England after their 18th birthday".

I think lengthy residency periods are necessary in sport, but surely they shouldn't apply if you have a parent who comes from the country you want to play for?

I agree and wouldn't be surprised if something changes to let him come in sooner.  For people like Pietersen this sort of change makes sense but when you're legally British it seems strange to not be eligible to play for England.

[tomd2103]

Bit more about the kid who has been discussed a bit on here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42828735

This seems a bit harsh to be honest:

"Under ECB rules, introduced in 2012, Archer, who has an English father and British passport, is not eligible to play for England until the winter of 2022 when he will have completed the seven-year residency period required for players who arrive in England after their 18th birthday".

I think lengthy residency periods are necessary in sport, but surely they shouldn't apply if you have a parent who comes from the country you want to play for?

I agree and wouldn't be surprised if something changes to let him come in sooner.  For people like Pietersen this sort of change makes sense but when you're legally British it seems strange to not be eligible to play for England.

Absolutely Paul, but I thought one of KP's parents is English as well.  I agree about someone who perhaps hasn't got family ties to a country they move to and 7 years sounds about right (the previous rugby one of three years was too lenient).  Is that across the board for all countries though or just something the ECB implement?

[cheltenhamlion]

Pietersen's old dear is English.

[cheltenhamlion]

I also agree it seems very unfair to have to qualify on residency grounds if your folks are from that country. The wife and I have discussed selling up and moving to Canada. I would be hugely pissed off if that had an impact on the kids wanting to represent England at sport.

[paul_e]

I actually didn't know that but in truth he was just the first name that came to mind.

[paul_e]

This is brilliant, David Willey is smashing chunks out of Nathan Lyon in the pres XI t20, 34 from the over.

[paul_e]

The best bit about that over was that the australian commentary (which BBC were rebroadcasting) had literally just been talking about how strange it was that Lyon doesn't get games for Australia in limited overs.  They never mentioned it again.

[paul_e]

Good start for England in the t20, currently 79/2 after 8 overs, Malan and Morgan in and both scoring very quick.  Hales had been doing well but he misjudged one that stuck slightly and played a fairly simple c&b back for Agar.

[taylorsworkrate]

Fell to pieces

[paul_e]

Yep, fucking this up a bit now, should've been looking at 190-200 and now we're hoping to bat out the overs and make par (160-165 here).