January Transfer Window

[ChicagoLion]

The worst thing about the situation with Hogan is the complete lack of awareness from Bruce over it - http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/12/21/steve-bruce-has-a-theory-behind-why-scott-hogan-has-struggled-at/page/1/

"I think it’s hard, no disrespect to Brentford, or Barnsley, but this is different to those clubs where there’s no real expectation,” he said.

“Staying in the division is probably the expectation, with that they can flourish.

“But when you come to Aston Villa you are under the pump, under the cosh, under the spotlight straight away.

“There’s big demands.

“That’s what playing for this club is, big club, big expectations - that becomes difficult for people, two or three have found it difficult.

“But we’ve seen with Hourihane, how he’s picked up and done well, but we hope Scotty can do that too.”

So nothing to do with us punting balls at his head from 60 yards away then?

On top of that, He talks about the pressure of expectations there but this is from a guy who called fans hysterical for having high expectations of him.

Just another way of abdicating responsibility for what has so far been a huge failure.
What would the player think reading that?

[tomd2103]

The worst thing about the situation with Hogan is the complete lack of awareness from Bruce over it - http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/12/21/steve-bruce-has-a-theory-behind-why-scott-hogan-has-struggled-at/page/1/

"I think it’s hard, no disrespect to Brentford, or Barnsley, but this is different to those clubs where there’s no real expectation,” he said.

“Staying in the division is probably the expectation, with that they can flourish.

“But when you come to Aston Villa you are under the pump, under the cosh, under the spotlight straight away.

“There’s big demands.

“That’s what playing for this club is, big club, big expectations - that becomes difficult for people, two or three have found it difficult.

“But we’ve seen with Hourihane, how he’s picked up and done well, but we hope Scotty can do that too.”

So nothing to do with us punting balls at his head from 60 yards away then?

On top of that, He talks about the pressure of expectations there but this is from a guy who called fans hysterical for having high expectations of him.

Just another way of abdicating responsibility for what has so far been a huge failure.
What would the player think reading that?

Not sure, but the dismissive attitude towards Brentford has probably made Dean Smith's team talk on Boxing Day a lot easier. 

[Rudy Can't Fail]

“But when you come to Aston Villa you are under the pump, under the cosh, under the spotlight straight away.

“There’s big demands.

“That’s what playing for this club is, big club, big expectations - that becomes difficult for people, two or three have found it difficult.

I trust he includes himself in those two or three.

[VILLA MOLE]

How about playing to his strengths once in a while

[Clampy]

He's got a point. He was playing in front of 10,000 at Brentford who are happy to just be in this division. Now the demands are higher. He's not the first to find it difficult and he probably won't be the last either.

[Toronto Villa]

If you pump the ball long all game to a bloke who is less than six foot it’s never going to get the most out of him. If that was Bruce’s plan when he scouted him he’s an idiot. He instead should have gone out and bought a target man type of player. And he certainly didn’t need to spend the £9m or whatever it was to get him

[oldham_villa]

Our style of play has not been conducive to his style; however, he does need to take more responsibility. If it isn't happening, MAKE it happen.

What a car crash of a signing

[paul_e]

He's got a point. He was playing in front of 10,000 at Brentford who are happy to just be in this division. Now the demands are higher. He's not the first to find it difficult and he probably won't be the last either.

No one has denied that but whilst that might be playing a part the fact that He's used Hogan as a target man when that has never been his game has been completely ignored in those quotes, which is why they're interesting.

[ChicagoLion]

The thing I have been dissapointed with is how easy it is to take the ball off him and his general lack of ability.
It looks like a one trick pony that can’t find the trick.
His last transfer was 400k so his fee to us ( reported 9 to 12 mil)is an astonishing rise in the players apparent value.
It is one of those eyebrow raising deals.

[ChicagoLion]

He's got a point. He was playing in front of 10,000 at Brentford who are happy to just be in this division. Now the demands are higher. He's not the first to find it difficult and he probably won't be the last either.

No one has denied that but whilst that might be playing a part the fact that He's used Hogan as a target man when that has never been his game has been completely ignored in those quotes, which is why they're interesting.

Yep, he is either not good enough which is a spectacular mis judgement, or he is good enough and the manager can’t get the best out of him which is a spectacular failure of football management.
No hiding from this one.

[VILLA MOLE]

There seems to have no plans regarding style , he has fallen across the likes of Davis ,

And Adomah, he really seems to wing it .  I am pretty sure he was saying a similar thing

About McCormack this time last year

[Clampy]

I'm just going by Bruce's comments about the expectation level. Cascarino came with a big reputation and he struggled as well. Of course he's been a disappointment so far for various reasons but like I said earlier, some work out, some don't.

[ChicagoLion]

I'm just going by Bruce's comments about the expectation level. Cascarino came with a big reputation and he struggled as well. Of course he's been a disappointment so far for various reasons but like I said earlier, some work out, some don't.

That would be fine if we had paid a couple of million for hm, he is Bruce’s biggest signing and now we are up against FFP rules with no where to go.
Is it possible for you to accept any criticism of this manager?

[Clampy]

I'm just going by Bruce's comments about the expectation level. Cascarino came with a big reputation and he struggled as well. Of course he's been a disappointment so far for various reasons but like I said earlier, some work out, some don't.

Is it possible for you to accept any criticism of this manager?

Why does it worry you so much?

People disagreeing on a football forum. That will never catch on.

[ChicagoLion]

I'm just going by Bruce's comments about the expectation level. Cascarino came with a big reputation and he struggled as well. Of course he's been a disappointment so far for various reasons but like I said earlier, some work out, some don't.

Is it possible for you to accept any criticism of this manager?

Why does it worry you so much?

People disagreeing on a football forum. That will never catch on.

Nor will blind obedience hopefully.