Keith Wyness

[garyshawsknee]

Lerner got tanked up and insulted them.

Lerner is the reason why we're still a championship team. The rot he created in that last five years still runs deep into the club. Bruce has partially fixed it, but it can take many years to completely eradicate the mess.

Lerner has nothing to do with the millions wasted since Dr X came in. Di  Matteo, Bruce and Wyness are all to blame.

[cheltenhamlion]

I don't like Wyness and I don't trust him. An arch delegator who adds little is my experience of him. 

[Brassneck]

I have always been OK with Wyness but I am now beginnig to question both him and Xia.

I hope my fears are unfounded but it's not looking great for us if the papers are to be believed.

[paul_e]

Hadn't seen that Q&A before, it's a bit worrying that he appears to be another who believes that stability for it's own sake will somehow bring rewards.  As I've said about Bruce, I don't see how you can use the argument of stability whilst creating a team with a very obvious expiration date. By design we're going into next season needing to replace 5 players from the 11 who started the final, that's not stability.

On top of that there are a few quotes there which show exactly what he is:

"The bottom ten clubs have a reality where they play negative football to stay alive. We need to build on that."

"I have to disagree with you slightly there Dave. Bruce has brought the youth in well. It’s hard to see how they are ready for a match and only Steve can judge that."

"the Villa Engine - we want to build a philosophy through Steve Round and give us future hope. It’s a style of play - these changes start in the youth teams and come through. The first team can’t do it as it has a challenge to meet."

So negative football is the only way to survive in the premier league, Bruce is doing well with the kids despite only playing them when he has no other options and the villa engine can't apply to the first team because they have a challenge to meet, when are they ever going to not have a challenge to meet?

All of that sounds like him trying to justify having a manager who doesn't fit the vision for the club going forward, I haven't met him but like Chelts I've never been comfortable about him, he comes across as a typical old school 'football man' just like Bruce and who wants to surround himself with people like him.

[dave.woodhall]

All of that sounds like him trying to justify having a manager who doesn't fit the vision for the club going forward, I haven't met him but like Chelts I've never been comfortable about him, he comes across as a typical old school 'football man' just like Bruce and who wants to surround himself with people like him.

My problem with him isn't that he's a football man, but quite the opposite. He's a businessman who sees football as a way to earn a good living and would be off tomorrow if he got a better offer. 

[paul_e]

Probably very true, I just meant in his understanding of the game, it's always come across as extremely simplistic, much like you see from chairman from 30-40 years ago.

[Ads]

All of that sounds like him trying to justify having a manager who doesn't fit the vision for the club going forward, I haven't met him but like Chelts I've never been comfortable about him, he comes across as a typical old school 'football man' just like Bruce and who wants to surround himself with people like him.

My problem with him isn't that he's a football man, but quite the opposite. He's a businessman who sees football as a way to earn a good living and would be off tomorrow if he got a better offer.  

Isn't that just about everybody in football?

I've never met him, so I cannot comment on whether I trust him or not. He's been in the gig a long time with Everton and Aberdeen. I feel more confident with him being there than Tom Fox, but the bar isn't set too high there.

[Chris Harte]

I'd not seen that transcript before now, but assuming its accurate it looks like he is/the board are forward thinking and trying to cover all possibilities.

As to whether people trust him, its him or some hack who can write any old crap to fill column inches in the super-soaraway-Sun without consequences, assuming that they don't libel anyone.

[kippaxvilla2]

Those comments are taken from a phone in he did I listened to it so can confirm it’s what he said.

[chrisw1]

I don't like Wyness and I don't trust him. An arch delegator who adds little is my experience of him. 

Chelts - are you still confident Bruce is going?  Was this based on "if we miss the target... " from a while back or something more recent?

[David_Nab]

I don't mind him and I can see where he is coming from regarding style of play , you can't change things overnight and Bruce was given a more short term goal ...however he failed in this goal and left us picking up the pieces

If Bruce is responsible for whats on the pitch Wyness and Round are responsible for hiring him and his failure leaves them accountable and they  should also be having their positions evaluated

[tomd2103]

Lerner got tanked up and insulted them.

Lerner is the reason why we're still a championship team. The rot he created in that last five years still runs deep into the club. Bruce has partially fixed it, but it can take many years to completely eradicate the mess.

The problems have been somewhat compounded by the approach of those that have followed Lerner.  The club does feel a bit more stable now, but we are still in the position where we are facing financial issues because we are paying comparatively big wages to players who were brought with seemingly no joined up thinking, are contributing very little on the pitch and we are going to have hard time moving on.  The majority of players that fall into that category in the current squad were purchased after Lerner left.   

[brian green]

I too have never met Wyness but everything I read and hear of what he says makes me believe he is a carpet bagger out of the same mould of the swarms of them we used to have buzzing around the club when we were strong enough to swat them.  Has dinosaur in his DNA I strongly suspect.

[SamTheMouse]

"The bottom ten clubs have a reality where they play negative football to stay alive. We need to build on that."

If that quote is accurate, he can sod off.

[sirlordbaltimore]

Lerner has nothing to do with the millions wasted since Dr X came in. Di  Matteo, Bruce and Wyness are all to blame.

But he has a LOT to do with the fact millions did need spending, whether they were spent badly or not