Wolves v Pups Post-Match Thread

[Clampy]

Why do we only have a small chance of promotion?

Because we play shit football and haven't been in the top six at all since we came down nearly 60 games ago.

So being 7th in October means we only have a small chance of promotion? Really?

We've played 7 of the bottom 10 and still aren't in the play off zone.  Yes really.

Case dismissed then, let's give up now. I mean, that point off the play off's and 5 points off second is far too much ground to make up clearly.

Who said give up? Who said it won't happen? Realistically, looking at how we play, looking at the results we've had and who we've played, looking at how our manager has performed over 12 months, we have a small chance of getting promoted.

In your opinion. I'm still optimistic.

[darren woolley]

I'm not worried there's a long way to go and we have just played one of the best sides in this division we wasn't going to win every game but I think we will be there or close come the end of the season.

[aj2k77]

Good, I'll get no satisfaction if I turn out to be right. I want us to be promoted. I want to believe, a few good performances against sides challenging up there will do the trick.

[john e]

your always going to win games and lose games but we should always be capable of competing and we didn’t yesterday

we played Wolves who’s manager has been there all of 5 minutes, spent a load of money on a few players no ones ever heard of and they tore us apart and and took the piss out of us all over the park in every department
the whole thing was a joke of a performance a humiliation against a local rival

it was like watching a plucky lower league team like Yeovil in the FA cup playing against Man Utd seeing how long they could last out before the inevitable
apart from its a Bruce team costing millions in signings and wages who can’t even give Wolverhampton fucking Wanderers a proper game

[ChicagoLion]

Good, I'll get no satisfaction if I turn out to be right. I want us to be promoted. I want to believe, a few good performances against sides challenging up there will do the trick.

Same, I want us to be performing and achieving something near the level that this squad is capable of.
We are no where near that.

[auntiesledd]

Good, I'll get no satisfaction if I turn out to be right. I want us to be promoted. I want to believe, a few good performances against sides challenging up there will do the trick.

Same, I want us to be performing and achieving something near the level that this squad is capable of.
We are no where near that.

Going by yesterday's abject display, I'm starting to think the squad are as capable as they actually are under Bruce.

[ChicagoLion]

Good, I'll get no satisfaction if I turn out to be right. I want us to be promoted. I want to believe, a few good performances against sides challenging up there will do the trick.

Same, I want us to be performing and achieving something near the level that this squad is capable of.
We are no where near that.

Going by yesterday's abject display, I'm starting to think the squad are as capable as they actually are under Bruce.

There were some poor performances out there, how much was down to the wAy we were set up and how much down to off days ?
I thought Kodija looked out of sorts, I also thought that Wolves had us pinned back tactically and Bruce as usual did nothing about it.

[Jockey Randall]

I think yesterday was a mixture of us not being at our best and them just being a better side than us at the moment. As others have said there's no need to hit the panic button just yet. We've still got some very good players for this level, let's see how the next couple of months play out.

[Boz]

Good, I'll get no satisfaction if I turn out to be right. I want us to be promoted. I want to believe, a few good performances against sides challenging up there will do the trick.

Same, I want us to be performing and achieving something near the level that this squad is capable of.
We are no where near that.

Going by yesterday's abject display, I'm starting to think the squad are as capable as they actually are under Bruce.

There were some poor performances out there, how much was down to the wAy we were set up and how much down to off days ?
I thought Kodija looked out of sorts, I also thought that Wolves had us pinned back tactically and Bruce as usual did nothing about it.

While the players were abysmal, in the final analysis, the manager set the team up, the style of play and the tactics.
He was totally out thought by the Wolves manager and players gave ours the run around.

We might be promoted, but this squad will be straight back down should we get in the premiership unless we have a modern manager and they are allowed to spend again, hopefully not on past their best has beens

[Clampy]

I think yesterday was a mixture of us not being at our best and them just being a better side than us at the moment. As others have said there's no need to hit the panic button just yet. We've still got some very good players for this level, let's see how the next couple of months play out.

Agree totally.

[Chris Jameson]

The only Wolves player I was familiar with was Ruddy, they look miles ahead of Villa with young, exciting players comfortable with the ball at their feet and playing some really nice football. Villa looked like a team of journeymen cobbled together hoping to get a 0-0. Kodjia doesn’t half get on my nerves with his theatrics and Bruce really doesn’t look healthy. Alan Hutton was easily our best player which says it all really.

[ktvillan]

I think yesterday was a mixture of us not being at our best and them just being a better side than us at the moment. As others have said there's no need to hit the panic button just yet. We've still got some very good players for this level, let's see how the next couple of months play out.

Agree totally.

Alternatively you could view it, as I do, as the inevitable outcome  of playing very poor football in a negative style.   Maybe what we saw yesterday is our "best",  a best that might be sufficient to grind out wins against poor opposition but will always come unstuck when up against any kind of quality.    We simply don't look as if we can actually play football most of the time. 

[ChicagoLion]

I think yesterday was a mixture of us not being at our best and them just being a better side than us at the moment. As others have said there's no need to hit the panic button just yet. We've still got some very good players for this level, let's see how the next couple of months play out.

Agree totally.

Alternatively you could view it, as I do, as the inevitable outcome  of playing very poor football in a negative style.   Maybe what we saw yesterday is our "best",  a best that might be sufficient to grind out wins against poor opposition but will always come unstuck when up against any kind of quality.    We simply don't look as if we can actually play football most of the time.

Absoloutely.

[Russ aka Big Nose]

I don't get the criticism 'we only beat teams near the bottom of the table.' Who cares? That's who our fixture list dictated we played. I still think we'll get a decent amount of points from the next three games. Seven should be the target, nine great, anything less an opportunity missed. We should be up there at the end of the season and I think we will.

Wolves are fortunate to have such a luxury of talent who have integrated so well. Of course it would be good if we had something similar, but Bruce's pragmatism isn't nearly as bad as some suggest. It's not as easy on the eye but we'll get there.

The better sides expose our failings - which in my view is the balance of a big squad (no adequate cover across the back four); the mismatch between approach and personnel (concede possession/defend deep exposing a thirtysomething defensive centre-mid - be it Whelan or Jedi); too cautious an approach; no clear plan A for how we create chances (and then a plan B); and poor tactical decisions in games (use of subs).

Wolves are a good side but they are not "fortunate to have such a luxury of talent" they have made good decisions on transfers, presumably based on a clear view of what they want and how they want to play and they have a new manager who has worked out good combinations around the pitch and as a whole and he has them motivated.

We have almost certainly invested more (don't have the stats to hand) but we've made poor decisions for at least 5/6 years and we have an experienced manager being outwitted by managers with fewer resources and less experience. We might well scramble a playoff place and I hope we do that (or better) but I can't see any assessment for the current regime other than C-, must do better (or get someone who can).

[itbrvilla]

I don't get the criticism 'we only beat teams near the bottom of the table.' Who cares? That's who our fixture list dictated we played. I still think we'll get a decent amount of points from the next three games. Seven should be the target, nine great, anything less an opportunity missed. We should be up there at the end of the season and I think we will.

Wolves are fortunate to have such a luxury of talent who have integrated so well. Of course it would be good if we had something similar, but Bruce's pragmatism isn't nearly as bad as some suggest. It's not as easy on the eye but we'll get there.

The better sides expose our failings - which in my view is the balance of a big squad (no adequate cover across the back four); the mismatch between approach and personnel (concede possession/defend deep exposing a thirtysomething defensive centre-mid - be it Whelan or Jedi); too cautious an approach; no clear plan A for how we create chances (and then a plan B); and poor tactical decisions in games (use of subs).

Wolves are a good side but they are not "fortunate to have such a luxury of talent" they have made good decisions on transfers, presumably based on a clear view of what they want and how they want to play and they have a new manager who has worked out good combinations around the pitch and as a whole and he has them motivated.

We have almost certainly invested more (don't have the stats to hand) but we've made poor decisions for at least 5/6 years and we have an experienced manager being outwitted by managers with fewer resources and less experience. We might well scramble a playoff place and I hope we do that (or better) but I can't see any assessment for the current regime other than C-, must do better (or get someone who can).

We've repeated the Lerner process sans limited success.