Quote from: Billy Walker on September 05, 2017, 10:05:06 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 05, 2017, 09:45:52 PMIf I say the 'L' word, does everyone promise not to immediately jump up and down? Right then:When Lerner took over we peaked with an average attendance of just over 40,000 in 2007-08 and despite another two top six finished gates slipped from then on. I don't think, as it stands, we could make the next jump towards making a 60,000 seater or anything like that stadium viable. Realistically, it would mean getting over 50,000 at least half a dozen times a year (which we've done in the past) and over forty the rest of the time (which we never have). The gates under Lerner were on an upward trajectory until it became apparent the ambition wasn't there. If clubs like Man City, West Ham and Newcastle can regularly get over 50k I'm sure Villa can. No they weren't. They peaked in his second season and went down after that. Nobody can say that the ambition wasn't still there in 2008-09; we signed the then-England centre-forward for gawd's sake.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 05, 2017, 09:45:52 PMIf I say the 'L' word, does everyone promise not to immediately jump up and down? Right then:When Lerner took over we peaked with an average attendance of just over 40,000 in 2007-08 and despite another two top six finished gates slipped from then on. I don't think, as it stands, we could make the next jump towards making a 60,000 seater or anything like that stadium viable. Realistically, it would mean getting over 50,000 at least half a dozen times a year (which we've done in the past) and over forty the rest of the time (which we never have). The gates under Lerner were on an upward trajectory until it became apparent the ambition wasn't there. If clubs like Man City, West Ham and Newcastle can regularly get over 50k I'm sure Villa can.
If I say the 'L' word, does everyone promise not to immediately jump up and down? Right then:When Lerner took over we peaked with an average attendance of just over 40,000 in 2007-08 and despite another two top six finished gates slipped from then on. I don't think, as it stands, we could make the next jump towards making a 60,000 seater or anything like that stadium viable. Realistically, it would mean getting over 50,000 at least half a dozen times a year (which we've done in the past) and over forty the rest of the time (which we never have).
If that's Heskey you're talking about then thats exactly the point many Villa fans realised the downwards curve was about to start. Heskey ffs.
My memory of that time was that the Barry transfer request (along with signings that weren't of perceived top four quality) started to make some people lose belief in the new regime. Lerner simply couldn't maintain the initial positive momentum of the takeover and O'Neill appointment and the quick upturn in attendances just as quickly melted away.
How long is Wyness visiting earth for?Villa Engine?It might as well be Thomas the Tank engine.We have gambled twice on 2 managers, the latest being a meat and potatos guy without any discernible style or strategy. The transfer activity follows this lack of footballing identity and we are discussing if 60,000 capacity is realistic.We are near the bottom of the second division having having assembled an eclectic and random squad which has just been matched by a team that cost 10 quid.
I don't know about a 60,000 capacity, but there's a possibility the Premier League crowds of the future could look quite different to the crowds of today and yesterday. It might not just be home and away fans any more.
Quote from: Jimbo on September 05, 2017, 11:27:25 PMI don't know about a 60,000 capacity, but there's a possibility the Premier League crowds of the future could look quite different to the crowds of today and yesterday. It might not just be home and away fans any more.Aliens ? 😱