Manager suggestions - Now with added poll

[brian green]

Agree completely ozz.  PWS pointed out a couple of days ago that the player who scored two goals for Cardiff against us had gone to them on a free transfer in the summer from Rochdale.   Money is NOT the answer.  Money has made us become a football trough for wasters, chancers and non triers to want to get their snouts in.  Players and staff.

To paraphrase Jack Kennedy, who was the last player we signed who asked himself what can I do for Aston Villa?  Not what can Aston Villa do for me?

[ozzjim]

The money thing is why I would be looking at people who are more up and coming in this division or abroad though.  We need someone that understand how to find a bargain and that you didn't have to spent 15m on every striker you sign as long as the one you get fits with your strategy for how you want to play.

[andyh]

What about Jaap Stam?
He seems to have found his feet in this division.

[passitsideways]

The money thing is why I would be looking at people who are more up and coming in this division or abroad though.  We need someone that understand how to find a bargain and that you didn't have to spent 15m on every striker you sign as long as the one you get fits with your strategy for how you want to play.

Didn't we go through that stage with Lambert though? The problem then was that we didn't develop them well at all - I think that's more the issue. Lowton's suddenly become a passable PL-level fullback since he's left us. Likewise, I have a sneaking suspicion Westwood, the scapegoat to end all scapegoats, should contribute at least in a squad capacity now that he's over there as well. At the other end of the scale, we bought talented youngsters for good fees in Amavi and Veretout, and made little progress with them.

The players we're buying may indeed be wasters, but it's really hard to know for sure the way we've been set up.

[lovejoy]

Big Sam.

[cdbearsfan]

We don't have the players to suit Allardyce. No run all day midfielders, no big unit up front. If we'd appointed him in May, with more time to bring people in, it could have worked. Now we need someone who will largely get the best out of the existing squad and I'm not sure that is Big Sam.

[john e]

Big Sams available, he's an easy option, lazy option sure but it's Wayness we're talking about here,

Let's get it done then we can all go through the same shit again in another 12 months time

[tomd2103]

Big Sams available, he's an easy option, lazy option sure but it's Wayness we're talking about here,

Let's get it done then we can all go through the same shit again in another 12 months time

So is Moyes, but I think he falls into the same category you go on to mention.  I think we need a totally different direction if / when Bruce goes.  Someone who is going to come in and work on improving the young players we have at the club and not just go for the obvious options.         

[ciggiesnbeer]

I wouldnt want big sam. I have had enough of the "sure its ugly but look its safe and will work" routine.
I would sooner go for the "maybe we will go up , maybe not, but we will be proud of the way we play" one.

[Rigadon]

Big Sams available, he's an easy option, lazy option sure but it's Wayness we're talking about here,

Let's get it done then we can all go through the same shit again in another 12 months time

So is Moyes, but I think he falls into the same category you go on to mention.  I think we need a totally different direction if / when Bruce goes.  Someone who is going to come in and work on improving the young players we have at the club and not just go for the obvious options.         

When we went down I wanted Moyes, but I'm not sure I do these days.  Also supported Bruce but it's clear that things aren't working out for him.  The way I see it, the players we brought in haven't turned into bad players overnight, but good championship players are usually only really good in a certain formation with a specific mix of team mates supporting.  If they were able to be very good in different formations then they would be playing at a higher level already.

Fuck knows who we go for now, but we need to change it to have any hope of going up this season.  No waiting about until mid-October when it's too late.

[Malandro]

Karanka is my pick, the list of unemployed managers is depressing.

http://www.marca.com/en/football/spanish-football/2017/07/01/5957b8b0e5fdead17a8b45ce.html

Good read.

[Jimbo]

Agree completely ozz.  PWS pointed out a couple of days ago that the player who scored two goals for Cardiff against us had gone to them on a free transfer in the summer from Rochdale.   Money is NOT the answer.  Money has made us become a football trough for wasters, chancers and non triers to want to get their snouts in.  Players and staff.

To paraphrase Jack Kennedy, who was the last player we signed who asked himself what can I do for Aston Villa?  Not what can Aston Villa do for me?

This. Throw in the soft-play spa that is Bodymoor Heath, the comfort, the expectation and the ingrained sense of entitlement that comes with being Aston Villa, and you've got a very difficult team to manage. Whoever comes in needs to have the strength of personality to challenge and change all that. And then he has to win over the fans. And then he has to get us promoted.

The problem is we're in such a mess, and so desperate not to be, that the most promising managers will be very wary of ruining their careers here. It'll be the journeymen past the peak of their careers who'll fancy giving it a go, because what would they have to lose?

[Chico Hamilton III]

Xia will obviously give the job to Terry.

[Bottom Right 89]

Imagine Dwight Yorke will reappear in the next few days to throw his hat in the ring

[olaftab]

Agree completely ozz.  PWS pointed out a couple of days ago that the player who scored two goals for Cardiff against us had gone to them on a free transfer in the summer from Rochdale.   Money is NOT the answer.  Money has made us become a football trough for wasters, chancers and non triers to want to get their snouts in.  Players and staff.

To paraphrase Jack Kennedy, who was the last player we signed who asked himself what can I do for Aston Villa?  Not what can Aston Villa do for me?

Yes. There is some talk today of us being interested in Jack Wilshere. No please no not another waster hired to massive wages sucking the life out of the Villa.