Cardiff battered Villa Post Match Thread

[Hairbandinho]

When Bacuna signs for reading at gets in the playoffs....

Wow!

[tomd2103]

Just got round to watching the goals and cannot quite believe how open we were.  In a number of the clips Cardiff were clearing the ball and next thing were one on one with our defenders in our box.  By the time the second and third went in it just looked like they had given up. 

[CT Villan]

Unless we are at least 2-up in the first 20 mins we will not win a game.

Steve Round should be on the next plane to Lille to secure our next manager.

[Axl Rose]

When Bacuna signs for reading at gets in the playoffs....

Wow!

If the deal is done in time, what odds on him scoring midweek?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Steve Round should be on the next plane to Lille to secure our next manager.

Sadly, I fear that ship has sailed. That article Tom put up the other day is still haunting me.

Just like under Lerner when we were chasing Roberto Martinez then went and got McLeish, how the hell can you go chasing Wagner and end up with Steve Bruce? They're from different fooking planets.

[dorsetvillian]

Our whole row of seats had duplicate tickets, so literally 2 people per seat. At least I couldn't see that clearly what was unfolding on the pitch!

[The Edge]

What is it that makes players, coaches, managers with hitherto solid and in some cases exciting reputations, curl up and die as soon as they come to our great club? It's not as if ''it's the fans lofty expectations at Villa Park''. Our away form, freed from most of us demanding supporters, is a scandal.
There can't be any other club in the world that has had such a wretched decade as us.
I feel sorry for anyone on here who's had babbies in the last seven years and been repeatedly embarassed in attempts to cajole their offspring into following us. A whole new generation of Villa fans being wiped-out.
Maybe our vision will be 2020 in three years time and the club will finally be able to see clearly.

My mates son is 12. He's had a season ticket since he was 5 The highlight of his 7 years following the Villa is a semi final win! It's such a shame.

[Axl Rose]

What is it that makes players, coaches, managers with hitherto solid and in some cases exciting reputations, curl up and die as soon as they come to our great club? It's not as if ''it's the fans lofty expectations at Villa Park''. Our away form, freed from most of us demanding supporters, is a scandal.
There can't be any other club in the world that has had such a wretched decade as us.
I feel sorry for anyone on here who's had babbies in the last seven years and been repeatedly embarassed in attempts to cajole their offspring into following us. A whole new generation of Villa fans being wiped-out.
Maybe our vision will be 2020 in three years time and the club will finally be able to see clearly.

My mates son is 12. He's had a season ticket since he was 5 The highlight of his 7 years following the Villa is a semi final win! It's such a shame.

Poor lad. One of the worst times to support the Villa probably.

I was born three months after Rotterdam and started supporting the club properly from around 1992, so have been lucky to live through the BFR and Little years, and to a lesser, but still poignant extent, those of Gregory and O'Neil. Which I enjoyed on the whole.

Anything after that has been a struggle, to put it lightly.

[The Edge]

Now can we stop kidding ourselves about the state of the team and some of the players involved.

Alan Hutton, terrible, given another years contract, another half a million down the drain when we have younger, better players. He puts a shift in they say...... so fucking what, if that's the only requirement now to playing for us then you can be certain we aren't going up any time soon. Way below the standard required, positionally one of the worst footballers I've seen at Villa.

Agbonlahor. Finished. Has been finished for half a decade. Dug up from his slovenly grave because Bruce is a dinosaur.  Has lost most of the only asset he had, a bit of pace.

Scott Hogan. Sold down the river with this guy. He runs about a bit but has no presence up front. Hasn't finished any of the half chances he's had. Doesn't seem to have any attributes. We overpaid by about £10m if he was the £12m quoted. In the right team he might score goals but it's nothing that resembles the slow, ambling, pensioner like side we have.

Glenn Whelan. Now I'm sure he has qualities, Stoke fans love him but he's on the way down, another player signed when he's on a swansong and no doubt the desire and drive are on the wane. He's slow, he's poor on the ball, the exact two qualities we already have in abundance throughout the squad. Another player not required.

The team as a whole lacks anyone who can beat a man, lacks pace, lacks movement and drive.

It's a fucking rabble. Today was much worse than expected. How many times have we been outplayed under Bruce compared to times when we've outplayed other clubs? Bruce is on borrowed time, the transfer policy has been haphazard and yet again we find ourselves in a position where we have no idea how we are going to score against sides, or even put them under intense pressure.

This shit show of Bruce's will be over before October is out and we will have to rebuild, again, only this time we will have no money at all to do it, FFP, we're fucked because of it and will have to rely on clever signings, bringing our own players through or developing what we have off the pitch. Things we have become lazy at.

We are in massive trouble.

Sadly I have to agree with all of that. And we're waiting for the return of Jedinak who's a great battler but once again painfully slow.

[The Edge]

Warnock is a fucking football dinosaur.
I guess that makes Bruce primordial slime?

That made me laugh 😂

[myf]

What is it that makes players, coaches, managers with hitherto solid and in some cases exciting reputations, curl up and die as soon as they come to our great club? It's not as if ''it's the fans lofty expectations at Villa Park''. Our away form, freed from most of us demanding supporters, is a scandal.
There can't be any other club in the world that has had such a wretched decade as us.
I feel sorry for anyone on here who's had babbies in the last seven years and been repeatedly embarassed in attempts to cajole their offspring into following us. A whole new generation of Villa fans being wiped-out.
Maybe our vision will be 2020 in three years time and the club will finally be able to see clearly.

My mates son is 12. He's had a season ticket since he was 5 The highlight of his 7 years following the Villa is a semi final win! It's such a shame.

I've got three boys and the eldest is 9.  They're downstairs watching MOTD now. A matter if time before one of them starts asking for a red shirt. 

It's not really a shock to see so many gloryhunter children around Brum

[The Edge]

We have lost every away game under Bruce in which we have conceeded first, the total is 11 games, there hasn't been a single time in any of those games when we have even got the scores back level at any point.

Wow. That's a damning statistic.

[The Edge]

What is really shocking is how out of shape and unfit we look. There's no excuse for that.

Yes there is. We had the most apathetic pre season in living memory.

[Richard]

First two league games and both opposition teams have just powered through our midfield for long periods exposing our ageing defence. I no longer think Bruce is going to take us up but as we are probably stuck with him I'd like to see Bree at right back, Jedi and Josh screening the defence with 3 flair players supporting the striker - Hourihane Green O Hare maybe - Kodjia is a huge miss so Hogan will have to do the lone striker role for now.

[Loxton01]

He must go and now

When he arrived I thought he was the right man for the job but we are getting worse not better. The team still does not look cohesive and balanced. For me you have to look at who is coaching them an average centre half and an even more average centre midfielder. Perhaps Bruce's success in the past has been linked to backroom staff no longer with him?

When I watch us we seem to have one plan overlapping fullbacks and that's about it. We don't play to our strengths how can hogan go from scoring so many at Brentford to looking lost at villa. We don't have patterns of play.

Finally as many have said how the likes of gabby Hutton can stay in the team even above the kids is staggering. They are proven failures for years and cannot be anymore than squad players. Also what the hell is Micah Richards doing? It's frightening the money this club has wasted.

He has to go and we must bring in a coach who will get the best out of the players as Bruce has had enough time not perhaps to have the finished article but certainly to have is improved.