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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #630 on: December 19, 2017, 07:23:14 AM »
I think Bristol will fall away badly again second half of the season. Their squad is no bigger than last and their top scorer is a centre half.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #631 on: December 19, 2017, 08:21:36 AM »
I think Bristol will fall away badly again second half of the season. Their squad is no bigger than last and their top scorer is a centre half.

You keep saying that but it isn't true. Flint is joint second on 6 goals. Top scorer is striker/attacking midfielder Bobby Reid who has scored 11.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #632 on: December 19, 2017, 08:24:12 AM »
I should add, they are in the top 3 or 4 teams in the league for goals scored this season as well.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #633 on: December 19, 2017, 08:43:08 AM »
Fair enough. My opinion remains unaltered.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #634 on: December 19, 2017, 03:58:09 PM »
I think Bristol will fall away badly again second half of the season. Their squad is no bigger than last and their top scorer is a centre half.

If we don't find a way to score goals we will fall away badly too. Since winning 4-0 at Burton we have only scored 13 goals in the last 12 games, only one from a recognized striker and that was Kodjia from the penalty spot vs Bolton. Adomah has been on fire, something he won't maintain, with the balance of the goals coming from Terry, Chester, Onomah, Snodgrass, Lansbury and Samba.

If we don't find a solution in January we'll slide quickly. In fact we had a decent little cushion below us a couple of weeks ago and sat safely in the play offs. That cushion has gone. One or two more results like the ones we have had recently and the likes of Leeds, Ipswich, Preston (who have won 4 of their last 5) will be above us.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #635 on: December 19, 2017, 04:04:20 PM »
Considering our three senior strikers have been injured for a large chunk of that time, is it any wonder we have lacked goals up front?

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #636 on: December 19, 2017, 04:10:29 PM »
Considering our three senior strikers have been injured for a large chunk of that time, is it any wonder we have lacked goals up front?

I'm not dismissing that, but let's be honest it's not like Gabby, Hogan, Davis, McCormack were tearing it up for us at any point in our history. In fact between them they probably have less than 10 goals collectively in the past 18 months. Kodjia obviously is a massive blow, but he's been gone since the end of last season.

Bruce should have done more give the resources at his disposal. He should have found a way to have at least played to Hogan's strengths as opposed to pumping it long to him. Having bought him he's failed massively there.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #637 on: December 19, 2017, 04:56:16 PM »
I think Bristol will fall away badly again second half of the season. Their squad is no bigger than last and their top scorer is a centre half.
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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #638 on: December 19, 2017, 05:02:08 PM »
I think Bristol will fall away badly again second half of the season. Their squad is no bigger than last and their top scorer is a centre half.
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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #639 on: December 19, 2017, 05:10:43 PM »
I think Bristol will fall away badly again second half of the season. Their squad is no bigger than last and their top scorer is a centre half.

They are owned by a billionaire who may want to bring in a player or two next month.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #640 on: December 19, 2017, 05:34:14 PM »
We have started clutching at other teams imploding now as we have lost touch with the top 2, what ever, we still have to put a run of results together including beating the teams at the top of the table.
I would love to know what  the magic Steve Bruce formula is  that is going to achieve this.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #641 on: December 19, 2017, 05:45:00 PM »
We have started clutching at other teams imploding now as we have lost touch with the top 2, what ever, we still have to put a run of results together including beating the teams at the top of the table.
I would love to know what  the magic Steve Bruce formula is  that is going to achieve this.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #642 on: December 19, 2017, 05:55:01 PM »
I think Bristol will fall away badly again second half of the season. Their squad is no bigger than last and their top scorer is a centre half.

If we don't find a way to score goals we will fall away badly too. Since winning 4-0 at Burton we have only scored 13 goals in the last 12 games, only one from a recognized striker and that was Kodjia from the penalty spot vs Bolton. Adomah has been on fire, something he won't maintain, with the balance of the goals coming from Terry, Chester, Onomah, Snodgrass, Lansbury and Samba.

If we don't find a solution in January we'll slide quickly. In fact we had a decent little cushion below us a couple of weeks ago and sat safely in the play offs. That cushion has gone. One or two more results like the ones we have had recently and the likes of Leeds, Ipswich, Preston (who have won 4 of their last 5) will be above us.

It isn't just what we aren't getting from the strikers though. We have scored 29 in half a season. You don't get in the play offs only scoring 58 goals unless you have a preposterously mean defence. They are doing alright but the lack of goals will do for us if we don't sort it in January. Frankly, I am struggling to hold on to any form of hope of automatic promotion. The improvement required from us, dovetailed with the implosion required above, seems tremendously unlikely to me.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #643 on: December 19, 2017, 06:04:40 PM »
I think Bristol will fall away badly again second half of the season. Their squad is no bigger than last and their top scorer is a centre half.

If we don't find a way to score goals we will fall away badly too. Since winning 4-0 at Burton we have only scored 13 goals in the last 12 games, only one from a recognized striker and that was Kodjia from the penalty spot vs Bolton. Adomah has been on fire, something he won't maintain, with the balance of the goals coming from Terry, Chester, Onomah, Snodgrass, Lansbury and Samba.

If we don't find a solution in January we'll slide quickly. In fact we had a decent little cushion below us a couple of weeks ago and sat safely in the play offs. That cushion has gone. One or two more results like the ones we have had recently and the likes of Leeds, Ipswich, Preston (who have won 4 of their last 5) will be above us.

It isn't just what we aren't getting from the strikers though. We have scored 29 in half a season. You don't get in the play offs only scoring 58 goals unless you have a preposterously mean defence. They are doing alright but the lack of goals will do for us if we don't sort it in January. Frankly, I am struggling to hold on to any form of hope of automatic promotion. The improvement required from us, dovetailed with the implosion required above, seems tremendously unlikely to me.

There's no doubt about it. It looks massively bleak and maybe why he's rolling the dice in bringing in Agnew. It's not going to be enough. The man is naturally cautious and he won't play an open expansive style because he has no idea what that even is. He brought in a proven goalscorer in Hogan and instead of watching the DVD on how Brentford played to his strengths he lumps the ball long and has midfield players sitting far too deep. I'm no fucking expert and only play Football Manager when I get a few minutes and even I can see that. We've completely wasted 20 odd million on two forwards who were brilliant at their old clubs and have done the square root of fuck all for us. I get with McCormack much is on him, but getting the best out of players is what an experienced manager like Bruce is meant to do and is paid very well to do.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #644 on: December 19, 2017, 06:12:31 PM »
I think Bristol will fall away badly again second half of the season. Their squad is no bigger than last and their top scorer is a centre half.

If we don't find a way to score goals we will fall away badly too. Since winning 4-0 at Burton we have only scored 13 goals in the last 12 games, only one from a recognized striker and that was Kodjia from the penalty spot vs Bolton. Adomah has been on fire, something he won't maintain, with the balance of the goals coming from Terry, Chester, Onomah, Snodgrass, Lansbury and Samba.

If we don't find a solution in January we'll slide quickly. In fact we had a decent little cushion below us a couple of weeks ago and sat safely in the play offs. That cushion has gone. One or two more results like the ones we have had recently and the likes of Leeds, Ipswich, Preston (who have won 4 of their last 5) will be above us.

It isn't just what we aren't getting from the strikers though. We have scored 29 in half a season. You don't get in the play offs only scoring 58 goals unless you have a preposterously mean defence. They are doing alright but the lack of goals will do for us if we don't sort it in January. Frankly, I am struggling to hold on to any form of hope of automatic promotion. The improvement required from us, dovetailed with the implosion required above, seems tremendously unlikely to me.

There's no doubt about it. It looks massively bleak and maybe why he's rolling the dice in bringing in Agnew. It's not going to be enough. The man is naturally cautious and he won't play an open expansive style because he has no idea what that even is. He brought in a proven goalscorer in Hogan and instead of watching the DVD on how Brentford played to his strengths he lumps the ball long and has midfield players sitting far too deep. I'm no fucking expert and only play Football Manager when I get a few minutes and even I can see that. We've completely wasted 20 odd million on two forwards who were brilliant at their old clubs and have done the square root of fuck all for us. I get with McCormack much is on him, but getting the best out of players is what an experienced manager like Bruce is meant to do and is paid very well to do.

It is also why signing that little ginger lad at Brentford would be a waste of time. He dictates the play and relies on movement in front of him to thread players in. He would get a crick in his neck in our team.

If we were to continue playing the same style we should have spent the Hogan money on Hugill at Preston and Watkins (then of Exeter).

 


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