My step dad has had a season ticket at Anfield since the late sixties. He said the first half last night was the best 45 mins he had ever seen his team play. I despise the bin dippers but have to say his happy little face cheered me up this morning
What epitomises the Liverpool fans to me is the case of Michael Shields who was part of a group travelling to watch them in Bulgaria. He was convicted of murdering a local man. Then followed a massive appeal and "justice for campaign which eventually resulted in his release and pardon. Another fan "admitted" to being the killer but this was later retracted. The hypocracy of getting a campaign behind a "victim" but not actually trying to bring a genuine killer to justice really irritatates me. What is of course lost in all this victim syndrome is the real victim who sadly lost his life that day at the hands of the hooligans.
Quote from: lovejoy on April 05, 2018, 11:02:34 AMWhat epitomises the Liverpool fans to me is the case of Michael Shields who was part of a group travelling to watch them in Bulgaria. He was convicted of murdering a local man. Then followed a massive appeal and "justice for campaign which eventually resulted in his release and pardon. Another fan "admitted" to being the killer but this was later retracted. The hypocracy of getting a campaign behind a "victim" but not actually trying to bring a genuine killer to justice really irritatates me. What is of course lost in all this victim syndrome is the real victim who sadly lost his life that day at the hands of the hooligans.At least you've moved on from Hillsborough and Heysel. It's a start.
They are very knowledgeable fans at Anfield, somebody said so on the radio last night, again.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on April 05, 2018, 11:08:42 AMQuote from: lovejoy on April 05, 2018, 11:02:34 AMWhat epitomises the Liverpool fans to me is the case of Michael Shields who was part of a group travelling to watch them in Bulgaria. He was convicted of murdering a local man. Then followed a massive appeal and "justice for campaign which eventually resulted in his release and pardon. Another fan "admitted" to being the killer but this was later retracted. The hypocracy of getting a campaign behind a "victim" but not actually trying to bring a genuine killer to justice really irritatates me. What is of course lost in all this victim syndrome is the real victim who sadly lost his life that day at the hands of the hooligans.At least you've moved on from Hillsborough and Heysel. It's a start.Beat me to it.
Quote from: Chris Jameson on April 05, 2018, 11:31:15 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on April 05, 2018, 11:08:42 AMQuote from: lovejoy on April 05, 2018, 11:02:34 AMWhat epitomises the Liverpool fans to me is the case of Michael Shields who was part of a group travelling to watch them in Bulgaria. He was convicted of murdering a local man. Then followed a massive appeal and "justice for campaign which eventually resulted in his release and pardon. Another fan "admitted" to being the killer but this was later retracted. The hypocracy of getting a campaign behind a "victim" but not actually trying to bring a genuine killer to justice really irritatates me. What is of course lost in all this victim syndrome is the real victim who sadly lost his life that day at the hands of the hooligans.At least you've moved on from Hillsborough and Heysel. It's a start.Beat me to it.Do we want to go over that ground again? Let's not. I think Liverpool fans have a victim complex you don't. The above was an example where a misplaced victim crusade slightly undermines genuine ones. Happy to respect your different view.
When was the last time I brought up Heysel? You’re the one raising it here. Not sure that it’s relevant to the point being made here whether a convicted hooligan was successful in his murder attempt or not.