The 'It's Been A Horrible One' Post Match Thread.

[Rudy65]

There was nothing on the game but a defeat could mean another nail in the Small Heath coffin, and I don't give a toss if some fans would rather we lost. So what? All this "I'm ashamed with the fans" is so over the top it's laughable. It's a bit of fun, nothing more nothing less.

I'm sorry, but (1) "fans" who rather we lost have no right as being described as fans; and (2) as for it being "a bit of fun", when I fork out my £27 for a ticket, the bit of fun I want is a half decent performance from my team and hopefully a win - "nothing more nothing less".

As SH says its a bit of fun at the end of another awful season. Its a bit of fun at the expense of our neighbours. The truth of the matter is that most of us realise we arent actually much better than Blose despite having a superior squad

[brian green]

The other thing that has to be taken into account is that large numbers of our fans have been radicalised by the post MON years and will react differently from past happier times.  I find myself holding views and opinions about the managers, the staff and the players I would not have tolerated in myself six years ago. 

[john e]

you only had to go to the derby game last week or any away game ever to realise the rivalry between to the two clubs is one of pure dislike even hatred for some, and I use the term hatred as a footballing term

its pointless trying to down play it pretending we don't really care about blues because they are small, shit and forever in our shadow,
we do care, to some of us its the one that counts the most, I know some fans see other local games as more important for their own personal reasons but you cant deny the biggest is SHA as proved at every away game you go to,
 

I actually love it when we go to Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal etc and the home fans think we are only there to see their great stars perform and all we are singing about is some small time toss basket club, it shows we are different from the SKY generation football fans where the whole world revolves around the biggest richest clubs

every football rivalry is the same yet different in many ways
you wont find half and half scarfs being sold outside the ground,
you wont find ex players saying nice things about the other club, even the ones who played for both come down firmly to one side
 you wont get hundreds of fans bussed in from the home counties
99% of people there will be from within a radius of 50 miles apart from the ex pats who travel in, because its a true local derby, I'm not from Birmingham and that's what I love about it
I'm glad it wasn't on telly last week because its nothing to do with any one else just us, that's what makes it special

so joshing about singing for Blackburn is no big deal for me

[brontebilly]

The stark truth highlighted by every game since Burton is that we are no better than the team that was relegated.  If Lambert, Sherwood or Garde had been left in charge and the squad unchanged we would have sunk to 20 points off the play offs in the Championship.

We, the supporters, have endured the engagement and sacking of four managers and the squandering of colossal sums of money to achieve absolutely nothing.

Next season will be no different.  Bruce will be given more time and he will persist in the playing of Agbonlahor, Gardner, Bacuna, Richards, Elphick, Baker, plus a few equally technically inept old players like Samba while our young players get the odd quarter of an hour off the bench if they are lucky.

The institutionalised incompetence of Bodymoor Heath, earlier referred to, will probably deliver a half cooked, half coached, half arsed team that includes the usual suspects next August and next season will be no better than the last one.

Good post

Burton was awful but take your pick from Cardiff, wolves, Reading, Fulham, Barnsley, Ipswich, Norwich. And is anybody truly inspired by Clemence and Calderwood as coaches

Brighton players have no problem with Calderwood

Bruce has to go I'm afraid, even if we got promoted next season, we would be relegated immediately playing his type of football.

[curiousorange]

Brighton didn't seem to miss Calderwood.

[Chris Jameson]

Reading haven't missed Tshibola and Fulham haven't given McCormack a second thought.

[olaftab]

Brentford have gone on without Hogan.

[The Edge]

Brentford have gone on without Hogan.

Brentford haven't missed Hogan because they have a squad packed full of skilful, tricky and quick players. We have no one of that ilk. For that reason I would pay off SB straight after next week's game and go all in for Dean Smith. He knows how to build a good team with a game plan. Do it please Dr Tony.

[dicedlam]

The institutionalised incompetence of Bodymoor Heath, earlier referred to, will probably deliver a half cooked, half coached, half arsed team that includes the usual suspects next August and next season will be no better than the last one.

This is the issue for me. Until we eradicate all the negative influences at the club, we will never start to perform like a side capable of what we expect from a Villa team.

The player's will be drawn into a continuous spiral of negativity unless the mentality of the club recent years is drastically changed from top to bottom.

[ChicagoLion]

The stark truth highlighted by every game since Burton is that we are no better than the team that was relegated.  If Lambert, Sherwood or Garde had been left in charge and the squad unchanged we would have sunk to 20 points off the play offs in the Championship.

We, the supporters, have endured the engagement and sacking of four managers and the squandering of colossal sums of money to achieve absolutely nothing.

Next season will be no different.  Bruce will be given more time and he will persist in the playing of Agbonlahor, Gardner, Bacuna, Richards, Elphick, Baker, plus a few equally technically inept old players like Samba while our young players get the odd quarter of an hour off the bench if they are lucky.

The institutionalised incompetence of Bodymoor Heath, earlier referred to, will probably deliver a half cooked, half coached, half arsed team that includes the usual suspects next August and next season will be no better than the last one.

Great post.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Truly pissed off with yet another shite showing yesterday...waste of good time and money!

The thing for me, as with a lot of us, is that I see no improvement - or prospect of it - on the pitch at all!
The squad is stronger now than in December, Bruce has brought in some of his own players - especially midfielders that we wanted - but we still consistently lose possession far too easily and when we have it create very little. The players are there (but how the f*ck do Bacuna and Gardner get in the team?) but there is no balance, no style of play, no shape, not even graft.
That's all got to come down to one reason and Bruce damns himself with his own words:
"Four wins away is nowhere near good enough...we were absolutely hopeless...not good enough and I've been here the best part of 6 months and too many times I've come away like that and thought 'Dear oh dear, that was inept' "
Does he not see the connection between the performance of the team and his responsibility for it?

Stunning!

[tomd2103]

Really feel for all the fans who went yesterday and the support has been fantastic all season considering the circumstances. 

Finally faced up to watching the highlights earlier and immediately wished I hadn't.  What the hell was Baker doing for their goal?  There wasn't a Villa player anywhere near the Blackburn player who he passed to. 

[lordmcgrath5]

First time I've been at a Villa game where I was ashamed of the team and the fans.
Embarrassing to have sunk as low and small time as our neighbours.

Oh for fuck sake, I'd say any other club's fans in the land would have done the same as Villa supporters did today. A meaningless end of season game where if we lost could go a long way to relegating our hated neighbours. Big deal. All this "I'm ashamed of us" nonsense is just that, nonsense. So over the top.

Completely agree. At least the Blues/Blackburn story kept things interesting, especially when the Noses missed a penalty and had a man sent off. It put a smile on a lot of people's faces for a while yesterday, though obviously the mood changed when it was clear that Huddersfield weren't going to win. What else were we supposed to do? Watch the unwatchable shit the Villa were serving up? An abysmal performance but an enjoyable atmosphere before the game and early on.

[lordmcgrath5]

I actually love it when we go to Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal etc and the home fans think we are only there to see their great stars perform and all we are singing about is some small time toss basket club, it shows we are different from the SKY generation football fans where the whole world revolves around the biggest richest clubs

every football rivalry is the same yet different in many ways
you wont find half and half scarfs being sold outside the ground,
you wont find ex players saying nice things about the other club, even the ones who played for both come down firmly to one side
 you wont get hundreds of fans bussed in from the home counties
99% of people there will be from within a radius of 50 miles apart from the ex pats who travel in, because its a true local derby, I'm not from Birmingham and that's what I love about it
I'm glad it wasn't on telly last week because its nothing to do with any one else just us, that's what makes it special

so joshing about singing for Blackburn is no big deal for me

Good stuff.

[postal]

Please, swap him fo Redknapp asap. Bruce plays more boring and hopeless than McLeish.

Redknapp is bitter dinosaur. He blamed Villa last week for his Blues not being able to score, against a poor team, and again blamed them this week. Talked about another team when he shouldn't. What other manager does that?

Replace Bruce if needed but not for that wide boy.