Quote from: stuart445 on April 11, 2017, 11:25:45 AMQuote from: paul richard on April 10, 2017, 09:32:41 PMAfter the gloom, fog, confusion and turbulence of mid season, the playing style that has emerged in the clear spring light is certainly effective for the time being - results bear that out - but is limited and scrappy and risky, and surely can't be considered as the way forward if we are to mount a serious challenge for promotion next season. My impression is that most of the supporters fully expect us to be among the front runners from the start next season, but my fear is that playing a style of football that has us constantly on the back foot in open play, conceding possession and relying on the strength of the defence and the finishing abilities of one player, will see us come unstuck sooner rather than later, and could usher in yet more turbulence within the club as results fail to match expectations. The back 6, (including Jedinak as the holding player in midfield) plus Kodjia look settled and sorted. The remaining four places in the team do not. Bruce has to find a way for the wide players and the advanced/creative midfield players to play in unison and harmony and on the front foot, retaining the ball and playing further up the pitch. This means that players such as Gardner and Bacuna who seem barely able to pass to a team mate, should not start. It means that Lansbury and Hourihane need to step up and take more responsibility. And it means that a way has to be found to integrate Grealish and Hogan more successfully than has been the case to date. For me Adomah and Green flatter to deceive, so I'd be looking at better quality in wide positions in the summer. It also means that the mentality of the team needs to change too. Can Bruce achieve these things? He seems able to spot the shortcomings when interviewed after a game, but nothing seems to change in the next. So that's the big question for me. Adomah flatters to decieve? You mean the Adomah with 10 assists and a 3 goals , but yet you say Grealish who has been utterly useless needs to play. Green looks a lot more useful then Grealish who imo needs to be sold and filed under the modern Lee Hendrie You mean the Lee Hendrie who played over 250 Premier League games and got picked for England?
Quote from: paul richard on April 10, 2017, 09:32:41 PMAfter the gloom, fog, confusion and turbulence of mid season, the playing style that has emerged in the clear spring light is certainly effective for the time being - results bear that out - but is limited and scrappy and risky, and surely can't be considered as the way forward if we are to mount a serious challenge for promotion next season. My impression is that most of the supporters fully expect us to be among the front runners from the start next season, but my fear is that playing a style of football that has us constantly on the back foot in open play, conceding possession and relying on the strength of the defence and the finishing abilities of one player, will see us come unstuck sooner rather than later, and could usher in yet more turbulence within the club as results fail to match expectations. The back 6, (including Jedinak as the holding player in midfield) plus Kodjia look settled and sorted. The remaining four places in the team do not. Bruce has to find a way for the wide players and the advanced/creative midfield players to play in unison and harmony and on the front foot, retaining the ball and playing further up the pitch. This means that players such as Gardner and Bacuna who seem barely able to pass to a team mate, should not start. It means that Lansbury and Hourihane need to step up and take more responsibility. And it means that a way has to be found to integrate Grealish and Hogan more successfully than has been the case to date. For me Adomah and Green flatter to deceive, so I'd be looking at better quality in wide positions in the summer. It also means that the mentality of the team needs to change too. Can Bruce achieve these things? He seems able to spot the shortcomings when interviewed after a game, but nothing seems to change in the next. So that's the big question for me. Adomah flatters to decieve? You mean the Adomah with 10 assists and a 3 goals , but yet you say Grealish who has been utterly useless needs to play. Green looks a lot more useful then Grealish who imo needs to be sold and filed under the modern Lee Hendrie
After the gloom, fog, confusion and turbulence of mid season, the playing style that has emerged in the clear spring light is certainly effective for the time being - results bear that out - but is limited and scrappy and risky, and surely can't be considered as the way forward if we are to mount a serious challenge for promotion next season. My impression is that most of the supporters fully expect us to be among the front runners from the start next season, but my fear is that playing a style of football that has us constantly on the back foot in open play, conceding possession and relying on the strength of the defence and the finishing abilities of one player, will see us come unstuck sooner rather than later, and could usher in yet more turbulence within the club as results fail to match expectations. The back 6, (including Jedinak as the holding player in midfield) plus Kodjia look settled and sorted. The remaining four places in the team do not. Bruce has to find a way for the wide players and the advanced/creative midfield players to play in unison and harmony and on the front foot, retaining the ball and playing further up the pitch. This means that players such as Gardner and Bacuna who seem barely able to pass to a team mate, should not start. It means that Lansbury and Hourihane need to step up and take more responsibility. And it means that a way has to be found to integrate Grealish and Hogan more successfully than has been the case to date. For me Adomah and Green flatter to deceive, so I'd be looking at better quality in wide positions in the summer. It also means that the mentality of the team needs to change too. Can Bruce achieve these things? He seems able to spot the shortcomings when interviewed after a game, but nothing seems to change in the next. So that's the big question for me.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on April 11, 2017, 11:30:27 AMQuote from: stuart445 on April 11, 2017, 11:25:45 AMQuote from: paul richard on April 10, 2017, 09:32:41 PMAfter the gloom, fog, confusion and turbulence of mid season, the playing style that has emerged in the clear spring light is certainly effective for the time being - results bear that out - but is limited and scrappy and risky, and surely can't be considered as the way forward if we are to mount a serious challenge for promotion next season. My impression is that most of the supporters fully expect us to be among the front runners from the start next season, but my fear is that playing a style of football that has us constantly on the back foot in open play, conceding possession and relying on the strength of the defence and the finishing abilities of one player, will see us come unstuck sooner rather than later, and could usher in yet more turbulence within the club as results fail to match expectations. The back 6, (including Jedinak as the holding player in midfield) plus Kodjia look settled and sorted. The remaining four places in the team do not. Bruce has to find a way for the wide players and the advanced/creative midfield players to play in unison and harmony and on the front foot, retaining the ball and playing further up the pitch. This means that players such as Gardner and Bacuna who seem barely able to pass to a team mate, should not start. It means that Lansbury and Hourihane need to step up and take more responsibility. And it means that a way has to be found to integrate Grealish and Hogan more successfully than has been the case to date. For me Adomah and Green flatter to deceive, so I'd be looking at better quality in wide positions in the summer. It also means that the mentality of the team needs to change too. Can Bruce achieve these things? He seems able to spot the shortcomings when interviewed after a game, but nothing seems to change in the next. So that's the big question for me. Adomah flatters to decieve? You mean the Adomah with 10 assists and a 3 goals , but yet you say Grealish who has been utterly useless needs to play. Green looks a lot more useful then Grealish who imo needs to be sold and filed under the modern Lee Hendrie You mean the Lee Hendrie who played over 250 Premier League games and got picked for England?Played once for England so hardly an endorsement of how good he was. The true endorsement of Hendrie is that the main thing he is remembered for is shagging Bruce's daughter.
Quote from: stuart445 on April 11, 2017, 11:37:26 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on April 11, 2017, 11:30:27 AMQuote from: stuart445 on April 11, 2017, 11:25:45 AMQuote from: paul richard on April 10, 2017, 09:32:41 PMAfter the gloom, fog, confusion and turbulence of mid season, the playing style that has emerged in the clear spring light is certainly effective for the time being - results bear that out - but is limited and scrappy and risky, and surely can't be considered as the way forward if we are to mount a serious challenge for promotion next season. My impression is that most of the supporters fully expect us to be among the front runners from the start next season, but my fear is that playing a style of football that has us constantly on the back foot in open play, conceding possession and relying on the strength of the defence and the finishing abilities of one player, will see us come unstuck sooner rather than later, and could usher in yet more turbulence within the club as results fail to match expectations. The back 6, (including Jedinak as the holding player in midfield) plus Kodjia look settled and sorted. The remaining four places in the team do not. Bruce has to find a way for the wide players and the advanced/creative midfield players to play in unison and harmony and on the front foot, retaining the ball and playing further up the pitch. This means that players such as Gardner and Bacuna who seem barely able to pass to a team mate, should not start. It means that Lansbury and Hourihane need to step up and take more responsibility. And it means that a way has to be found to integrate Grealish and Hogan more successfully than has been the case to date. For me Adomah and Green flatter to deceive, so I'd be looking at better quality in wide positions in the summer. It also means that the mentality of the team needs to change too. Can Bruce achieve these things? He seems able to spot the shortcomings when interviewed after a game, but nothing seems to change in the next. So that's the big question for me. Adomah flatters to decieve? You mean the Adomah with 10 assists and a 3 goals , but yet you say Grealish who has been utterly useless needs to play. Green looks a lot more useful then Grealish who imo needs to be sold and filed under the modern Lee Hendrie You mean the Lee Hendrie who played over 250 Premier League games and got picked for England?Played once for England so hardly an endorsement of how good he was. The true endorsement of Hendrie is that the main thing he is remembered for is shagging Bruce's daughter. It isn't, but don't let that put you off. You've not told us how 49 goals in 101 games makes a player a bad signing for a while.
Played once for England so hardly an endorsement of how good he was.
Who's this with 49 goals in 101 games?? As Hendrie had 27 in 251 and Grealish has 4 in 59.
Quote from: stuart445 on April 11, 2017, 08:58:38 PMWho's this with 49 goals in 101 games?? As Hendrie had 27 in 251 and Grealish has 4 in 59. And who was it scored 49 in 101 for us?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on April 12, 2017, 12:04:41 AMQuote from: stuart445 on April 11, 2017, 08:58:38 PMWho's this with 49 goals in 101 games?? As Hendrie had 27 in 251 and Grealish has 4 in 59. And who was it scored 49 in 101 for us?So you're saying Hendrie was good because he played 251 games for villa. Those 251 games were over 13 years, not great is it really when you consider Westwood played 147 in 5 years.
Hendrie was a very good player at Villa. I really wish we had a player of his quality playing central midfield for us now.
No chance, Hendrie was average, but he was ace at going out and getting pissed whilst asking anyone around him if they knew who he was.
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