Summer transfer madness thread

[robbo1874]

I think Baker is adequate at championship level and doesn't need replacing. Big if, but if he can go through next season relatively unscathed, he should have enough quality to help us get back up. I really don't want John Terry at VP next season.

[Holte L2]

I think Baker is adequate at championship level and doesn't need replacing. Big if, but if he can go through next season relatively unscathed, he should have enough quality to help us get back up. I really don't want John Terry at VP next season.

Baker's positional awareness is shocking. He's a mid table Championship defender, useful squad player but is very limited.
There is  no doubt Terry is good enough. If he stays fit he will be a superb addition. I don't like him as a human being, but you can't knock his playing career. No brainer for me. It's a yes.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

Agree 100% avfcpg.  I am very deeply suspicious of Bruce's outpouring about where we are being totally unsatisfactory then going on with more of the same old time management.  Pinning your hopes of promotion on the drafting in of players like Whelan and Terry is basically the acceptance of mid Championship mediocrity.  We have talent in abundance in our squad both players already bought and young home grown players.  Used properly and intelligently by the manager and his staff we should win the league at a canter.  Bruce has to raise his game.

Totally agree

Assess what you have and work out what formation best suits them and stick to it

It shouldnt be that difficult a concept to grasp although having watched us aimlessly lumping balls up to hogan against the unwashed it obviously is

[robbo1874]

Agree 100% avfcpg.  I am very deeply suspicious of Bruce's outpouring about where we are being totally unsatisfactory then going on with more of the same old time management.  Pinning your hopes of promotion on the drafting in of players like Whelan and Terry is basically the acceptance of mid Championship mediocrity.  We have talent in abundance in our squad both players already bought and young home grown players.  Used properly and intelligently by the manager and his staff we should win the league at a canter.  Bruce has to raise his game.

Totally agree

Assess what you have and work out what formation best suits them and stick to it

It shouldnt be that difficult a concept to grasp although having watched us aimlessly lumping balls up to hogan against the unwashed it obviously is

we all have our opinions- I find Terry very unlikeable. Maybe he can do a job for us, maybe not. I'd rather we didn't sign him. If we do and it works out, fair play.

[robbo1874]

Sorry I fkd up the quote there as usual. Meant to quote quote Holte L2

[godzvilla]

Radio Talkshite this morning discussing possible( rumoured ) Terry destinations, Villa not even mentioned, Swansea  favourites, allegedly.
Recent focus on Samba could be a clue, personally, he would be my preference..........Godzvilla!

[Holte L2]

Agree 100% avfcpg.  I am very deeply suspicious of Bruce's outpouring about where we are being totally unsatisfactory then going on with more of the same old time management.  Pinning your hopes of promotion on the drafting in of players like Whelan and Terry is basically the acceptance of mid Championship mediocrity.  We have talent in abundance in our squad both players already bought and young home grown players.  Used properly and intelligently by the manager and his staff we should win the league at a canter.  Bruce has to raise his game.

Totally agree

Assess what you have and work out what formation best suits them and stick to it

It shouldnt be that difficult a concept to grasp although having watched us aimlessly lumping balls up to hogan against the unwashed it obviously is

we all have our opinions- I find Terry very unlikeable. Maybe he can do a job for us, maybe not. I'd rather we didn't sign him. If we do and it works out, fair play.

I get it. I also find him unlikeable. But he's a winner. He could be a great addition. Just like Barton proved to be for Burnley in the Championship.

[paul_e]

Agree 100% avfcpg.  I am very deeply suspicious of Bruce's outpouring about where we are being totally unsatisfactory then going on with more of the same old time management.  Pinning your hopes of promotion on the drafting in of players like Whelan and Terry is basically the acceptance of mid Championship mediocrity.  We have talent in abundance in our squad both players already bought and young home grown players.  Used properly and intelligently by the manager and his staff we should win the league at a canter.  Bruce has to raise his game.

Totally agree

Assess what you have and work out what formation best suits them and stick to it

It shouldnt be that difficult a concept to grasp although having watched us aimlessly lumping balls up to hogan against the unwashed it obviously is

we all have our opinions- I find Terry very unlikeable. Maybe he can do a job for us, maybe not. I'd rather we didn't sign him. If we do and it works out, fair play.

I get it. I also find him unlikeable. But he's a winner. He could be a great addition. Just like Barton proved to be for Burnley in the Championship.

The key difference is Barton was a wanker signed at his prime.  Terry is a 36 year old wanker who played 14 games last season and looked well off the pace in both of those that I saw.  Our biggest problem is that we play at a ridiculously slow tempo and have no pace.  signings like Terry aren't going to fix that.

[PeterWithesShin]

Even if you ignore what a scumbag he is, he'll be 37 a few months into the season. He'll make Vlaar's appearance record look like Charlie Aitken's.

[tomd2103]

Even if you ignore what a scumbag he is, he'll be 37 a few months into the season. He'll make Vlaar's appearance record look like Charlie Aitken's.

Plus you would have to play a certain way to incorporate him.  We would basically have to set up our defensive line on our own 18 yard box to ensure there is no space in behind him.  Marc Roberts, the CB from Barnsley we were linked with earlier in the season, seems to be attracting some attention. 

[Damo70]

Even if you ignore what a scumbag he is, he'll be 37 a few months into the season. He'll make Vlaar's appearance record look like Charlie Aitken's.

I remember Vlaar. One of 'The Lambert Generation'. Mr Woodhall could write a very big book along the lines of 'where are they now'?.

[PeterWithesShin]

Just had a look and Vlaar lost the cup final with AZ last season. One of the Vitesse players is the splendidly named Marvelous Nakamba.

[tomd2103]

I think Baker is adequate at championship level and doesn't need replacing. Big if, but if he can go through next season relatively unscathed, he should have enough quality to help us get back up. I really don't want John Terry at VP next season.

Baker's positional awareness is shocking. He's a mid table Championship defender, useful squad player but is very limited.
There is  no doubt Terry is good enough. If he stays fit he will be a superb addition. I don't like him as a human being, but you can't knock his playing career. No brainer for me. It's a yes.

Agree with that assessment and would also add that he is also poor on the ball, meaning that we will never be able to play from the back with him in the side.  Like you, I would be more than happy with him as a squad player, but I think we need a better partner for Chester next season. 

[RussellC]

I think Baker is adequate at championship level and doesn't need replacing.

I agree that baker is adequate at Championship level, but that's exactly why he does need replacing.

[Malandro]

Outside football, he's proved what a mooncalf he is.

However, if he sees getting a club promoted as a good challenge, I'd be impressed. He certainly could make more money elsewhere.

 Is he up to it? The only doubt is his pace and we all witnessed what that did to our Jolean.

I'm firmly in the couldn't give a toss camp.