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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3585 on: September 01, 2017, 07:00:12 AM »
lets face it, McCormack is staying. So Bruce will have to find a way to save face and re-integrate him into the team. Davis should still get a shout and we have sufficient cover at all but Leftback. Not bad, but still 3 or 4 wasters hanging around (as indeed they have been for the last 7-8 years)

Why does Bruce need to save face? McCormack needs to pull his bloody socks up and earn his fucking wages.

As for the wasters, unfortunately on the wages they  get paid we're stuck til the contracts run out.

I think when Bruce came in he thought that McCormack was one that he could raise some money from by selling.  He decided to try and rehabilitate Gabby and cast McCormack aside (as he did with Ayew).  He has now found that unless Villa take a massive financial hit on him (which I do not think the Club will), no one will take him.  I am starting to think it is a bit of a Mexican standoff between Bruce and the Board regarding McCormack.

I don't agree with any of that apart from the Gabby bit. McCormack hasn't settled for whatever reason and hasn't helped himself either and Ayew whilst working hard whilst he was here probably wanted to go back to the Premier League once we dropped. As for the Mexican standoff, there's no proof of that. It's a transfer that just didn't happen for some reason.
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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3586 on: September 01, 2017, 07:01:29 AM »
A transfer that likely didn't happen as nobody wanted to cover the wages for a person with well known personal problems and questionable attitude.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3587 on: September 01, 2017, 07:28:38 AM »
We will never sell Richards or Gabby. I mean who would want them? Both contracts will just have to be allowed to peter out.  Elphick remains as cover so he can be useful. Mcormack? Well he has to be used now, otherwise we're just wasting 12million. When he came on against Wigan he looked leaner and sharper so maybe, just maybe he could turn out to be a player for us.
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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3588 on: September 01, 2017, 07:38:01 AM »
We will never sell Richards or Gabby. I mean who would want them? Both contracts will just have to be allowed to peter out.  Elphick remains as cover so he can be useful. Mcormack? Well he has to be used now, otherwise we're just wasting 12million. When he came on against Wigan he looked leaner and sharper so maybe, just maybe he could turn out to be a player for us.

That's really up to him, but he doesn't strike me as the type to knuckle down

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3589 on: September 01, 2017, 07:38:39 AM »
It's a shame we didn't get rid of a few wasters but you can't have everything and what we have in does improve the squad, whether the manager can now build a consistent team remains to be seen.

They're right chuffed over at the Rags though, looks like everyone the manager has bought in is a winner and no mistake. Harlee Davidson has been inducted into their Hall Of Fame without kicking a ball due to the way he has endeared himself to the fantasists from the Big W overspill car park.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3590 on: September 01, 2017, 07:57:41 AM »
McCormack has so many players in front of him that I just can't see it

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3591 on: September 01, 2017, 08:33:40 AM »
lets face it, McCormack is staying. So Bruce will have to find a way to save face and re-integrate him into the team. Davis should still get a shout and we have sufficient cover at all but Leftback. Not bad, but still 3 or 4 wasters hanging around (as indeed they have been for the last 7-8 years)

Why does Bruce need to save face? McCormack needs to pull his bloody socks up and earn his fucking wages.

As for the wasters, unfortunately on the wages they  get paid we're stuck til the contracts run out.

Agree that the person in the wrong is McCormack and if Bruce had found a way to get rid that would have been the best option. But he didn't, so as the boss he's going to have to fix it, for the best of the club.

McCormack has to play his part as well, which means if picked, putting a shift in.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3592 on: September 01, 2017, 08:36:41 AM »
I think there was a clear edict that Bruce had to balance the books after his spending at Xmas.  He has failed to shift players and therefore this has limited his buying.  I do not have  a problem with that as we have been too easy in the past in letting managers buy without selling (other than our top players) and been left with fortunes being poured down the drain.

I think you'll find he has to balance the books after RDM's spending last August. Bruce didn't spend a fat lot in January really.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3593 on: September 01, 2017, 08:44:03 AM »
I think there was a clear edict that Bruce had to balance the books after his spending at Xmas.  He has failed to shift players and therefore this has limited his buying.  I do not have  a problem with that as we have been too easy in the past in letting managers buy without selling (other than our top players) and been left with fortunes being poured down the drain.

I think you'll find he has to balance the books after RDM's spending last August. Bruce didn't spend a fat lot in January really.

Relative to a vast majority of teams in this division though, he spent a fuckload, if not on fees, but wages. Likewise, this summer. Lansbury, Hourihane, Hogan, Terry, Whelan, and Snodgrass would all be on plenty.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3594 on: September 01, 2017, 08:46:12 AM »
I think there was a clear edict that Bruce had to balance the books after his spending at Xmas.  He has failed to shift players and therefore this has limited his buying.  I do not have  a problem with that as we have been too easy in the past in letting managers buy without selling (other than our top players) and been left with fortunes being poured down the drain.

I think you'll find he has to balance the books after RDM's spending last August. Bruce didn't spend a fat lot in January really.

Relative to a vast majority of teams in this division though, he spent a fuckload, if not on fees, but wages. Likewise, this summer. Lansbury, Hourihane, Hogan, Terry, Whelan, and Snodgrass would all be on plenty.

The point OMVF made though was that he's had to cut down on his spending due to what he spent in January when in reality, he didn't spend a great deal compared to what we did this time last year.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3595 on: September 01, 2017, 08:55:25 AM »
I think there was a clear edict that Bruce had to balance the books after his spending at Xmas.  He has failed to shift players and therefore this has limited his buying.  I do not have  a problem with that as we have been too easy in the past in letting managers buy without selling (other than our top players) and been left with fortunes being poured down the drain.

I think you'll find he has to balance the books after RDM's spending last August. Bruce didn't spend a fat lot in January really.

Relative to a vast majority of teams in this division though, he spent a fuckload, if not on fees, but wages. Likewise, this summer. Lansbury, Hourihane, Hogan, Terry, Whelan, and Snodgrass would all be on plenty.

The point OMVF made though was that he's had to cut down on his spending due to what he spent in January when in reality, he didn't spend a great deal compared to what we did this time last year.

Yeah, I get that, but it was still a lot of money and I don't think it should really be cheapened just because a whole lot more was spent a few months previous.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3596 on: September 01, 2017, 09:00:00 AM »
I'm actually quite glad we didn't loan McCormack to a rival. Even if he's not going to score 25 goals a season like he used too, he's still a decent player to have coming off the bench. If Bruce can find a way of motivating him he could still make an impact for us.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3597 on: September 01, 2017, 09:11:55 AM »
something he has singularly failed to do for nearly a year. Something's  not right between the two of them.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3598 on: September 01, 2017, 09:59:22 AM »
V disappointed Richards and Gabby are still on the books. In my view they remain a negative influence on a great club. Real progress forwards will only be achieved when they are gone! We're still lacking a cover LB and centre back remains a concern with only Chester (based on last year's form) up to the task. Gates McCormack has his issues, but there is a player and goalscorer in there. He has to take some responsibility for getting himself fit to play (physically and mentally), however Bruce as manager also has a role to play to get the best out of McCormack, otherwise why be a manager?

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3599 on: September 01, 2017, 10:01:50 AM »
I'm actually quite glad we didn't loan McCormack to a rival. Even if he's not going to score 25 goals a season like he used too, he's still a decent player to have coming off the bench. If Bruce can find a way of motivating him he could still make an impact for us.
I made this point earlier. I'm going solely on his cameo against Wigan (yeah I know). He has definitely been putting in the hard yards. Whether that was to put himself in the shop window or to prove a point to the club, who knows but  we have no option now but to utilise him to our advantage.

 


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