Summer transfer madness thread

[eddiemunster]

Yeah the deadwood consisting of Bunn, Richards, Elphick, Hutton, Gardner, Agbonlahor, McCormack and the loaned out players Gollini, Gil, Tshibola and Amavi.
 
My views is that we should persevere with bringing through our young players and giving them first team experience.

Then start thinking about who we get rid of at the end of the season.

These;

Elmohamedy, Samba, Terry, Whelan and any one else from the midfield of the same age group.

[eddiemunster]

And let's not loan any more players out, unless it's with a definite transfer at the end of the loan.

[Villa75]

I don't agree that a bloated squad stops youngsters progressing. If they're good enough - better than the poor players bloating up the squad - then they will play.

Some managers are less brilliant than we would like, but I don't know one of them that wouldn't play an outstanding youngster - one that could possibly save their job - just because they have a "bloated squad".

It's more likely that we over hype the youngsters and cling to them as our next big hope when, 9 times out of 10, they are worse or no better than those that are playing and we are moaning about.

[PaulWinch again]

Musa has looked quality whenever I've seen him. He'd be a great signing for Hull.

[PaulWinch again]

McCormack really has been a truly terrible signing.

[tomd2103]

McCormack really has been a truly terrible signing.

Signed for his scoring record in the division, yet there was seemingly no idea about where to play him or how to play to his strengths.  His attitude after joining just compounded a really poor decision. 

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

McCormack really has been a truly terrible signing.

Based on his track record, it really does look like we're a big fucking burden for anyone who joins. How can you score so many goals for so long, then just look shot. It's got to be us, surely?

[tomd2103]

McCormack really has been a truly terrible signing.

Based on his track record, it really does look like we're a big fucking burden for anyone who joins. How can you score so many goals for so long, then just look shot. It's got to be us, surely?

Think there were some off the field issues going on with him. 

[Boz]

I see Alex Bruce has left Bury only 17 days after signing for them.....next stop Dad?

[old man villa fan]

I don't agree that a bloated squad stops youngsters progressing. If they're good enough - better than the poor players bloating up the squad - then they will play.

Some managers are less brilliant than we would like, but I don't know one of them that wouldn't play an outstanding youngster - one that could possibly save their job - just because they have a "bloated squad".

It's more likely that we over hype the youngsters and cling to them as our next big hope when, 9 times out of 10, they are worse or no better than those that are playing and we are moaning about.

Young players have to continually be stepping up to the next level to develop.  Very few go straight to first team as 16/17 year olds.  Many managers default to experience for their short term existence rather than looking at the long term for the club.

[john e]

I see Alex Bruce has left Bury only 17 days after signing for them.....next stop Dad?

he was only there on a non contract basis
Literally no one else in the football league wanted him

[curiousorange]

Having seen a load of unknown players arrive two summers ago and flop spectacularly should have curbed any appetite I had for leaps into the dark, but this Villa squad is so meat and potatoes now. I can totally see Alex Bruce holding up a Villa shirt tomorrow and Bruce saying of Kelly, "we're just gonna take a little look at him" and giving him a two year deal.

[Lastfootstamper]

I don't agree that a bloated squad stops youngsters progressing. If they're good enough - better than the poor players bloating up the squad - then they will play.

Some managers are less brilliant than we would like, but I don't know one of them that wouldn't play an outstanding youngster - one that could possibly save their job - just because they have a "bloated squad".

It's more likely that we over hype the youngsters and cling to them as our next big hope when, 9 times out of 10, they are worse or no better than those that are playing and we are moaning about.

Young players have to continually be stepping up to the next level to develop.  Very few go straight to first team as 16/17 year olds.  Many managers default to experience for their short term existence rather than looking at the long term for the club.

A bit like classroom sizes, I can see how squad size could affect the development of da yoof. I've never been subjected to professional coaching, but surely having 25+(?) 'senior' players at training every day is going to limit the amount of time that can be expended by coaches on the younger players.

[old man villa fan]

I don't agree that a bloated squad stops youngsters progressing. If they're good enough - better than the poor players bloating up the squad - then they will play.

Some managers are less brilliant than we would like, but I don't know one of them that wouldn't play an outstanding youngster - one that could possibly save their job - just because they have a "bloated squad".

It's more likely that we over hype the youngsters and cling to them as our next big hope when, 9 times out of 10, they are worse or no better than those that are playing and we are moaning about.

Young players have to continually be stepping up to the next level to develop.  Very few go straight to first team as 16/17 year olds.  Many managers default to experience for their short term existence rather than looking at the long term for the club.

A bit like classroom sizes, I can see how squad size could affect the development of da yoof. I've never been subjected to professional coaching, but surely having 25+(?) 'senior' players at training every day is going to limit the amount of time that can be expended by coaches on the younger players.

It's the opportunity of playing with better players that stretches young players out of their comfort zone to a higher level.  You keep on raising the bar.  Filling the squad with experienced and older players that are realistically hardly ever going to play will hold back the development of young players through lack of opportunity.

[Villa75]

I don't agree that a bloated squad stops youngsters progressing. If they're good enough - better than the poor players bloating up the squad - then they will play.

Some managers are less brilliant than we would like, but I don't know one of them that wouldn't play an outstanding youngster - one that could possibly save their job - just because they have a "bloated squad".

It's more likely that we over hype the youngsters and cling to them as our next big hope when, 9 times out of 10, they are worse or no better than those that are playing and we are moaning about.

Young players have to continually be stepping up to the next level to develop.  Very few go straight to first team as 16/17 year olds.  Many managers default to experience for their short term existence rather than looking at the long term for the club.

A bit like classroom sizes, I can see how squad size could affect the development of da yoof. I've never been subjected to professional coaching, but surely having 25+(?) 'senior' players at training every day is going to limit the amount of time that can be expended by coaches on the younger players.

It doesn't seem to prevent Man Utd, Spurs, Southampton, et al? What's Man Utd's squad size?

Nah. Good players will find their way through, especially with a poor 1st team squad like ours.

Perhaps we just don't have a lot of great young players, and we over hype those that play one or two matches and look half decent?