Quote from: devilla on July 01, 2017, 05:10:55 PMQuote from: kippaxvilla2 on July 01, 2017, 11:11:19 AMAnyone's else worried by the lack of outgoings so far? I know it only officially starts today but normally a few deals are already agreed by how. Particularly when you think of how many we need to ship out.Yes I am. LOL it's July 1st
Quote from: kippaxvilla2 on July 01, 2017, 11:11:19 AMAnyone's else worried by the lack of outgoings so far? I know it only officially starts today but normally a few deals are already agreed by how. Particularly when you think of how many we need to ship out.Yes I am.
Anyone's else worried by the lack of outgoings so far? I know it only officially starts today but normally a few deals are already agreed by how. Particularly when you think of how many we need to ship out.
Quote from: ozzjim on July 01, 2017, 02:14:27 PMLooking around I think outs going to be a bloody tough season. Sheff Wed are strengthening again, QPR ended the season well and are buying, the noses will have a good season under Twitch and have bought a good couple of players in already, Rowett has sombre money at Derby although Hughes and Ince going may harm them, Boro will be very strong with Monk, Fulham were excellent last season and have a good manager, Brentford finished the season well and Jota looks a player. All in all we are a decent way off at the moment I reckon. Didn't QPR end with 9 defeats out of 11 or something.I honestly don't see anyone out there on the level of Newcastle or even Brighton.Sunderland still have a really poor squad so up to Grayson to wheel and deal a bit, Hull are an unknown quantity and Boro should be top 6 but their squad dosen't scare me like Newcastle's did as half of them used to play for us of course!Of course teams like Derby and Sheff Weds should be up there again but history of championship tells us we should be more wary of teams who finished the previous year fighting relegation as promotion candidates. Which brings us to SHA....No excuses for us not to be top 6 at the very least. I'd be really disappointed if we don't have a proper go at top 2 aswell.
Looking around I think outs going to be a bloody tough season. Sheff Wed are strengthening again, QPR ended the season well and are buying, the noses will have a good season under Twitch and have bought a good couple of players in already, Rowett has sombre money at Derby although Hughes and Ince going may harm them, Boro will be very strong with Monk, Fulham were excellent last season and have a good manager, Brentford finished the season well and Jota looks a player. All in all we are a decent way off at the moment I reckon.
McCormack will never play under Bruce again.
We absolutely have to find a forestieri type player in midfield. It's worrying we don't appear to have been linked with any such player. At the same time we are letting Gil leave.
A player like that won't be a perfect panacea that turns us into the team we want to see and too many managers in the last few years have failed to understand that. You have to know how to set a team up to make those players stand out and get the ball in the areas where they can go damage. We have Grelaish, McCormack, Lansbury and Hourihane who have all done that job to varying degrees of success in the past but have looked lost in this team.A bit of pace out wide would help because it masks shit tactics pretty effectively and is probably the the simplest solution. My concern, as I've been saying for months, is that I don't like the idea of quick fixes to get back up and then worry about staying up and changing the club once we're there. I think that's an arse about tit approach that will force us to speed horrific amounts of money to stand still.
Quote from: paul_e on July 02, 2017, 12:15:47 AMA player like that won't be a perfect panacea that turns us into the team we want to see and too many managers in the last few years have failed to understand that. You have to know how to set a team up to make those players stand out and get the ball in the areas where they can go damage. We have Grelaish, McCormack, Lansbury and Hourihane who have all done that job to varying degrees of success in the past but have looked lost in this team.A bit of pace out wide would help because it masks shit tactics pretty effectively and is probably the the simplest solution. My concern, as I've been saying for months, is that I don't like the idea of quick fixes to get back up and then worry about staying up and changing the club once we're there. I think that's an arse about tit approach that will force us to speed horrific amounts of money to stand still.A striker who can hold the ball up is the key for me. A player like that would enable some of the names mentioned above to play off him and I think we would see a lot more from them.
Quote from: SoccerHQ on July 01, 2017, 05:53:47 PMQuote from: ozzjim on July 01, 2017, 02:14:27 PMLooking around I think outs going to be a bloody tough season. Sheff Wed are strengthening again, QPR ended the season well and are buying, the noses will have a good season under Twitch and have bought a good couple of players in already, Rowett has sombre money at Derby although Hughes and Ince going may harm them, Boro will be very strong with Monk, Fulham were excellent last season and have a good manager, Brentford finished the season well and Jota looks a player. All in all we are a decent way off at the moment I reckon. Didn't QPR end with 9 defeats out of 11 or something.I honestly don't see anyone out there on the level of Newcastle or even Brighton.Sunderland still have a really poor squad so up to Grayson to wheel and deal a bit, Hull are an unknown quantity and Boro should be top 6 but their squad dosen't scare me like Newcastle's did as half of them used to play for us of course!Of course teams like Derby and Sheff Weds should be up there again but history of championship tells us we should be more wary of teams who finished the previous year fighting relegation as promotion candidates. Which brings us to SHA....No excuses for us not to be top 6 at the very least. I'd be really disappointed if we don't have a proper go at top 2 aswell.I think we are a pacey forward away from challenging for the top 2. Newcastle had Gayle and Atsu that gave them the out. Brighton had guile and creativity in Knockaert. We don't have either to set ourselves apart.
Quote from: tomd2103 on July 02, 2017, 08:27:51 AMQuote from: paul_e on July 02, 2017, 12:15:47 AMA player like that won't be a perfect panacea that turns us into the team we want to see and too many managers in the last few years have failed to understand that. You have to know how to set a team up to make those players stand out and get the ball in the areas where they can go damage. We have Grelaish, McCormack, Lansbury and Hourihane who have all done that job to varying degrees of success in the past but have looked lost in this team.A bit of pace out wide would help because it masks shit tactics pretty effectively and is probably the the simplest solution. My concern, as I've been saying for months, is that I don't like the idea of quick fixes to get back up and then worry about staying up and changing the club once we're there. I think that's an arse about tit approach that will force us to speed horrific amounts of money to stand still.A striker who can hold the ball up is the key for me. A player like that would enable some of the names mentioned above to play off him and I think we would see a lot more from them.I agree. My choice would be Walters at Stoke - available for nowt too I think?
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on July 02, 2017, 12:22:36 AMMcCormack will never play under Bruce again.Real shame. The bloke is talented. I dont blame Bruce but I wish they could somehow make it work.
everyone we've been linked with are the wrong side of 30. Not a good policy imo,