Quote from: brontebilly on February 21, 2017, 08:12:43 AMQuote from: Mister E on February 21, 2017, 06:51:34 AMIs Villa a managerial graveyard?- if yes, why?- if not, what has actually been going on over the last 6-7 years?We have burned through a veritable Who's Who of managers since the petulant departure of MON. Bruce arrived with a good record at Hull and a reputation of being pragmatically effective. Lambert - having had a torrid time - once again seems to be recovering the lustre he developed at Colchester and Naarrich.So, what is it about B6 that apparently puts the hex on managers?The managerial graveyard at Villa Park goes back over 25 years, only GT first time around got a better job post Villa. The role has finished the managerial careers of a number of them.There is obviously more to it than the man in charge, the support structure behind the scenes must be appallingAnd how do you think that has been allowed to continue for over 25 years?And, in that time there have been flashes where the manager has overcome the apparently-corrosive environment - BFR, Sir Brian, MON ....
Quote from: Mister E on February 21, 2017, 06:51:34 AMIs Villa a managerial graveyard?- if yes, why?- if not, what has actually been going on over the last 6-7 years?We have burned through a veritable Who's Who of managers since the petulant departure of MON. Bruce arrived with a good record at Hull and a reputation of being pragmatically effective. Lambert - having had a torrid time - once again seems to be recovering the lustre he developed at Colchester and Naarrich.So, what is it about B6 that apparently puts the hex on managers?The managerial graveyard at Villa Park goes back over 25 years, only GT first time around got a better job post Villa. The role has finished the managerial careers of a number of them.There is obviously more to it than the man in charge, the support structure behind the scenes must be appalling
Is Villa a managerial graveyard?- if yes, why?- if not, what has actually been going on over the last 6-7 years?We have burned through a veritable Who's Who of managers since the petulant departure of MON. Bruce arrived with a good record at Hull and a reputation of being pragmatically effective. Lambert - having had a torrid time - once again seems to be recovering the lustre he developed at Colchester and Naarrich.So, what is it about B6 that apparently puts the hex on managers?
My personal opinion is that it is the Eric Black syndrome. Looking out primarily to manage your career not the team.
For me we need a manager who actually gets us. Step forward Dean Smith. He always our the club before his own ego and would truly feel honoured to be with us
Quote from: mr underhill on February 21, 2017, 07:07:50 AMone thing I do know is that they are massively over rewarded. If Lambert is being rehabilitated at the Dog head's, I very much doubt they are paying as much as we did for the privilege. Paying £2m plus a year to Rafa is a world away from doing so to have some of the charlatan's we've had sitting in the Manager's seat at BHIf we pay so well, why have we not attracted someone who can get a grip on things and make a difference?
one thing I do know is that they are massively over rewarded. If Lambert is being rehabilitated at the Dog head's, I very much doubt they are paying as much as we did for the privilege. Paying £2m plus a year to Rafa is a world away from doing so to have some of the charlatan's we've had sitting in the Manager's seat at BH
I imagine there are Sunderland fan sites with pretty much the same sentiments. There seem to be certain clubs that are unmanageable irrespective of the manager.
Alan Pardew is available. Might get us safe at least. Has always been respectful towards us.Desperate times eh?