Aston Villa v Ipswich Town Post-Match Thread

[Tayls_7]

I can't see us winning the league this season.

You can get us at 1500/1 now.
Would you bet against us ?

Er, yeah.

[myf]

Lansbury looked good in the clips. Did he run out of steam? Elphick comical defending

[achilles]

Taylor had a mare and Bjarnason has now played three different positions all badly.

Jack of no trades.

I thought Viking was easily our best player today.  Good link-up and dropped into space nicely.

Don't agree, caught the wrong side of the player on numerous occasions and hasn't the pace, needs time to adjust to the speed of the English game.

[achilles]

After the disaster of today we need to put 3-5-2 to bed and get back to a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.

Against Barnsley Id go with

Johnstone - no other option

Bree (if fit), Chester, Baker, Taylor

Gardner

Lansbury Hourihane

Adomah     Green

Hogan

We need to play as a team and play to our strengths. Kodija is not a team player and we need a win desperately so Id go with Hogan with Adomah and Green off the flanks. Gardner would just sit for me and id tell him to graft and graft and graft and protect the defense allowing Lansbury to be more creative.

I think that is the way I would go now, although it would be hard to drop Kodjia as he is our most dangerous player but ultimately the team comes first and he most definitely is not a team player as he runs with his head down, plays purely on instinct.

[myf]

The whole club is a mess which he walked into. I think we were all a little bit deluded into thinking we'd bounce back from 6 years of sabotage overnight (me included).

Again, there's nothing wrong with the club. We have everything in place, superb facilities, good people, strong investment, the problem is the team.

Nothing wrong with the club?

We are making the same mistakes as we did under Lerner with MoN in charge, the only differences being we are shit on the pitch and in free fall a division lower than we were.

We need to stop trying to 'buy' everything!

That is what is causing our demise, we throw money at every single problem. The problem with money is it corrupts. We may well have bought the best this division had to offer, but if they were that good, they'd be being snapped up by Premier League teams...

The players we have bought and put on big contracts think they have made it, as we will most probably be the biggest club they will ever play for.

Rotten to the core.

I agree with the thrust of this. We've got to stop wasting cash on managers and players. I agree with some of the points collymore has made about naivety in spending 50m when the playoffs were a longshot. Just hope it's Xia money and not attaching debt against the club. Could be even more scary in a few years time if so and we're stuck in ECL or league 1.

15 teams above us most if which haven't spent anything like us last two windows

[QuintonVilla]

I thought Elphick would be a really good player for us. A leader, knows this division, proper defender. How wrong I was, he's absolute horseshit.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

Reading previous posts, I honestly believe that some people in this thread have more idea about tactics than Bruce does.

I wonder if he'd get a better perspective watching the game from high up in the stands.

I think he would

At another ground with his back to the pitch

[CT]

I thought Elphick would be a really good player for us. A leader, knows this division, proper defender. How wrong I was, he's absolute horseshit.

Same here. I compared his performance at Sheff Wed with Olly Mellberg. A leader of men. A fearless captain.

I'm not sure who I'd compare him to now.

[myf]

I thought Elphick would be a really good player for us. A leader, knows this division, proper defender. How wrong I was, he's absolute horseshit.

Same here. I compared his performance at Sheff Wed with Olly Mellberg. A leader of men. A fearless captain.

I'm not sure who I'd compare him to now.

Lescott

[Steve67]

Fucking fuck. Sick and tired of this shit. When's it going to end? Ipswich scored with their only shot on target. 5-3-2 at home is defeatest shit.

[mr underhill]

I said earlier as soon as you start with formations like that at home you're fucked. Bruce has lost the plot and will go the way of every other recent Villa manager.

[PeterWithesShin]

I thought Elphick would be a really good player for us. A leader, knows this division, proper defender. How wrong I was, he's absolute horseshit.

Same here. I compared his performance at Sheff Wed with Olly Mellberg. A leader of men. A fearless captain.

I'm not sure who I'd compare him to now.

Titus Bramble.

[UK Redsox]

I'm at a point now where I'd prefer to see Micah in the team ahead of Mad Tom. He really is terrible

How can the coaching staff have mapped out a plan for attacking corners that had McCafu as the man positioned centrally just outside of the Ipswich box ?

If you're going to play wingbacks, play fecking wingbacks as wingbacks. You couldnt find two players more suited to that role in this division than Bacuna and Amavi. Instead Bruce starts McCafu (who played ok) and Taylor (who was poor)

Hourihane played better today and at least Kod did attempt to pass to Hogan a couple of times.

Good tactic by Mick to just let Baker have the ball. He's great at heading and blocking but when it comes to kicking a football he makes James Collins look like Ronaldo.

[AV82EC]

I thought Elphick would be a really good player for us. A leader, knows this division, proper defender. How wrong I was, he's absolute horseshit.

Same here. I compared his performance at Sheff Wed with Olly Mellberg. A leader of men. A fearless captain.

I'm not sure who I'd compare him to now.

Titus Bramble.

Harsh on Titus.

[Rigadon]

I thought Elphick would be a really good player for us. A leader, knows this division, proper defender. How wrong I was, he's absolute horseshit.

Same here. I compared his performance at Sheff Wed with Olly Mellberg. A leader of men. A fearless captain.

I'm not sure who I'd compare him to now.

Titus Bramble.

Who if I recall correctly, Steve Bruce turned into a decent centre half for a bit.   

I was at the game for about 1 minute today, and it sounds like it was the best minute.  We can't go on losing for much longer, but Bruce still is the best option for us at present.  There are too many new players in the team at once, and that is what is doing us in.  With an inferior but slightly more settled bunch Bruce had us playing ta auto-promotion level.  Auto-promotion is what we will achieve next season under Bruce.