Scott Hogan - retired

[Damo70]

A hot steaming pile of garbage for player, 2 in 2 or not. A truly abysmal signing on our behalf.

Fence sitter 

[PaulWinch again]

Honestly Blues are pretty meaningless. If they need our reserves so be it.

[john e]

Honestly Blues are pretty meaningless. If they need our reserves so be it.

yet when we had the pitch invasion and were celebrating getting through to a Wembley final
 the song went up ‘Birmingham are you listening’ 
meaningless maybe but still are ultimate rivals bar none

[Aldridge Villa]

Don’t really understand why such an innocuous player who admittedly never hit the heights at B6 (through no lack of effort) is still subject to quite vehement criticism . Let him move on and get a game.

[Dr_Pangloss]

Don’t really understand why such an innocuous player who admittedly never hit the heights at B6 (through no lack of effort) is still subject to quite vehement criticism . Let him move on and get a game.

Probably because he cost an incredible amount of money (for the Championship) and simply did not deliver, putting in a string of absolutely woefully inept performances.

That said it's not his fault we were stupid enough to pay what we did for him. He always was and always will be a very average Championship level striker.

[nigel]

Don’t really understand why such an innocuous player who admittedly never hit the heights at B6 (through no lack of effort) is still subject to quite vehement criticism . Let him move on and get a game.

Probably because he cost an incredible amount of money (for the Championship) and simply did not deliver, putting in a string of absolutely woefully inept performances.

That said it's not his fault we were stupid enough to pay what we did for him. He always was and always will be a very average Championship level striker.

Was all down to Brucey.
Bought McCormack, played him wrong (or was that RDM?)
Bought Hogan, played him wrong

Sometimes players are not suited to a style of play and this was the main issue with Hogan.

I’m not surprised he’s doing ok a Small Heath.
Can only benefit us when we sell at end of season.

[rougegorge]

Don’t really understand why such an innocuous player who admittedly never hit the heights at B6 (through no lack of effort) is still subject to quite vehement criticism . Let him move on and get a game.

Probably because he cost an incredible amount of money (for the Championship) and simply did not deliver, putting in a string of absolutely woefully inept performances.

That said it's not his fault we were stupid enough to pay what we did for him. He always was and always will be a very average Championship level striker.

Was all down to Brucey.
Bought McCormack, played him wrong (or was that RDM?)
Bought Hogan, played him wrong

Sometimes players are not suited to a style of play and this was the main issue with Hogan.

I’m not surprised he’s doing ok a Small Heath.
Can only benefit us when we sell at end of season.

I don't get the idea that he was played wrong or that we never played to his strengths. He never really showed much at all and good players adapt anyway. Smith obviously didn't rate him either and he for one certainly should've known any strengths.

[paul_e]

To get the most of Hogan you needed to be playing a press so you won the ball back high up the pitch and could put him in on goal within a couple of passes. As soon as a defence gets organised he struggles to find space but he's a good finisher if he's not got much else to do other than get on the end of the ball in the box.

It's the sort of striker I can totally understand being incredibly successful at lower levels (bottom half of the championship at best) but he was never suited to the way Bruce played and was never going to be good enough when we were promoted.

[Risso]

He also wasn’t suitable for us under Smith, Sheffield United under Wilder, or Stoke under Jones or O’Neill. Two goals for Small Heath doesn’t change the fact that he is a shit, limited player.  He got 5 in 5 for us once, then scored once in the next 20 or so.

[paul_e]

He also wasn’t suitable for us under Smith, Sheffield United under Wilder, or Stoke under Jones or O’Neill. Two goals for Small Heath doesn’t change the fact that he is a shit, limited player.  He got 5 in 5 for us once, then scored once in the next 20 or so.

Under Smith he didn't play because he was never going to be good enough to replace Tammy. He did ok at Sheff Utd and I think he could've worked in that squad. Stoke were a complete mess, they made Butland look like a pub player. None of this is excuses, I think he's a poor player who is probably now at the highest level his ability can go, but the play style issue is still true, if Bruce honestly watched him and couldn't see how poorly suited he was then it's yet more evidence that Bruce is delusional and doesn't see the limitation of his approach.

[Risso]

Oh I agree, I don't think Bruce's scouting extended to anything more than looking at the list of top scorers in the division. 

[nigel]

He also wasn’t suitable for us under Smith, Sheffield United under Wilder, or Stoke under Jones or O’Neill. Two goals for Small Heath doesn’t change the fact that he is a shit, limited player.  He got 5 in 5 for us once, then scored once in the next 20 or so.

I’ve just read the first few pages of this thread 😂

[CT]

He also wasn’t suitable for us under Smith, Sheffield United under Wilder, or Stoke under Jones or O’Neill. Two goals for Small Heath doesn’t change the fact that he is a shit, limited player.  He got 5 in 5 for us once, then scored once in the next 20 or so.

I’ve just read the first few pages of this thread 😂

Hairbandinho was scarily accurate with his comment!

[rougegorge]

Oh I agree, I don't think Bruce's scouting extended to anything more than looking at the list of top scorers in the division.

Well there was only really Hogan that falls into this category; Lansbury to a degree.

However, whatever we may think about the tactics under Bruce, I think his good signings, including loanees, easily outweighed the negative ones.

[Jon Crofts]

The absolute worst case scenario here is Hogan's goals keep them in The Championship.