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Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #585 on: September 15, 2017, 02:05:00 PM »
Yes.

But it was obvious that what we needed was a proper number 9. Bruce spent months talking about playing Kodjia wide, using gabby up front, and it not really working

We then go and spend almost all of our remaining transfer budget on a diminutive striker with half a good season under his belt

The only justification I can see for this is either:

a) he wanted to pair hogan and Kodjia, but has since decided that 442 or 352 don't suit us
b) he thought hogan could lead the line if we transformed to a fluid, Brentford style outfit

A) looks like an expensive mistake. B) looks stupid

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #586 on: September 15, 2017, 02:37:00 PM »
exactly why I can't understand why we bought him - he's the wrong player for us

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #587 on: September 15, 2017, 02:44:03 PM »
A panic buy with no thought to it whatsoever. 

Offline paul_e

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #588 on: September 15, 2017, 02:56:12 PM »
A panic buy with no thought to it whatsoever. 

No, Bruce was quite clear that h's followed his career for a while and had wanted him previously, or at least that's the argument that was made when I suggested he was a panic buy based on looking at the top scorer charts and working our way down.  The odd bit is that if he really did know of him before then his complete inability to work out how to use him is even more mystifying and makes Bruce look even less capable in my mind.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #589 on: September 15, 2017, 02:59:30 PM »
If he had Grealish playing 10 yards behind him, with Kodjia free to roam, then Hogan would have scored a lot more.

As he's spent most of his time like a man more isolated than Matt Damon's character in the Martian, he's not done much.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #590 on: September 15, 2017, 03:06:08 PM »
If he had Grealish playing 10 yards behind him, with Kodjia free to roam, then Hogan would have scored a lot more.

As he's spent most of his time like a man more isolated than Matt Damon's character in the Martian, he's not done much.

Easy to say but there's not much in the way of evidence for Grealish laying on lots of assists.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #591 on: September 15, 2017, 03:09:47 PM »
I think Hogan will score a lot of goals, he's devoid of confidence and will come good once he nest a couple.

Offline paul_e

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #592 on: September 15, 2017, 03:49:38 PM »
If he had Grealish playing 10 yards behind him, with Kodjia free to roam, then Hogan would have scored a lot more.

As he's spent most of his time like a man more isolated than Matt Damon's character in the Martian, he's not done much.

Easy to say but there's not much in the way of evidence for Grealish laying on lots of assists.

However Grealish is another who suffered last season from the midfield being too deep because it meant he was creating space and beating men on halfway rather than in the final 3rd.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #593 on: September 15, 2017, 04:10:03 PM »
If he had Grealish playing 10 yards behind him, with Kodjia free to roam, then Hogan would have scored a lot more.

As he's spent most of his time like a man more isolated than Matt Damon's character in the Martian, he's not done much.

I agree with this.

If I was more with it I would just have said:
This

But I'm not.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #594 on: September 15, 2017, 04:22:27 PM »
I think Hogan will score a lot of goals, he's devoid of confidence and will come good once he nest a couple.
you think the bird will come home to roost, then? I hope you don't get egg on your face with this comment.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #595 on: September 15, 2017, 06:56:26 PM »
I maintain I think there's a good player in Hogan, I'm just worried that we do not have the right team to utilise that player.

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #596 on: September 15, 2017, 07:16:26 PM »
Quality player, just bought with no plan of how to use him.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #597 on: September 15, 2017, 07:16:48 PM »
I maintain I think there's a good player in Hogan, I'm just worried that we do not have the right team to utilise that player.

I agree 100%.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #598 on: September 15, 2017, 08:53:32 PM »
Quality player, just bought with no plan of how to use him.

Bruce could be fired for the Hogan signing alone, absolutely bizarre and a shocking indictment of his scouting of players. Granted he has a decent scoring record at this level but he is a very limited player, penalty box poacher at best. It's telling that it was the dildo salesmen in stratford that were our only competition for him.

In comparison, Benitez last season clearly saw limited players like Clark, Gayle, Daryl Murphy as able to fit into the tactical construct he was putting together to get promotion.


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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #599 on: September 15, 2017, 10:07:10 PM »
He's good, definitely should be doing well in this league, we just don't know or can't like most of our signings make him fit.

 


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