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Offline Ad@m

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #870 on: December 02, 2017, 11:45:06 PM »
The ridiculous thing is that pretty much the only time Hourihane has been played in his natural position he scored a hat trick.

Come on Brucie, it's not that hard.

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #871 on: December 03, 2017, 12:02:17 AM »
I think with Terry missing we are having to protect the back 4 a little more so the centre of midfield plays a little deeper, particularly away from home against the better sides. That is why he is getting forward less.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #872 on: December 03, 2017, 12:06:26 AM »
A central midfielder has to defend as well, think Conor was off the pace last night but like him. He has to show his class, like others

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #873 on: December 03, 2017, 12:32:22 AM »
I think he is being asked to play a role that does not come naturally to him.
He is a creative midfield player yet he is being asked to run and close gaps along side Whelan.
The way Bruce sets us up we are often getting over run in midfield.


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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #874 on: December 03, 2017, 08:09:52 AM »
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #875 on: December 03, 2017, 09:24:15 AM »
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #876 on: December 03, 2017, 09:32:24 AM »
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.

True they dominated us at the start but the difference from Wolves was that they looked a threat whereas Leeds only managed one shot on target.

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #877 on: December 03, 2017, 09:39:52 AM »
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.

True they dominated us at the start but the difference from Wolves was that they looked a threat whereas Leeds only managed one shot on target.

This. Did Johnstone make a save all game against Leeds? Wolves were miles better than us though but they've been miles better than most teams.

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #878 on: December 03, 2017, 10:35:18 AM »
I think he is being asked to play a role that does not come naturally to him.
He is a creative midfield player yet he is being asked to run and close gaps along side Whelan.
The way Bruce sets us up we are often getting over run in midfield.

I thought at Barnsley that he played the role of the deep lying playmaker as part of a sitting 2? I think we look a lot more compact with 2 sitting midfielders but agree it's impacted Hourihane's performances. As others have said, swapping Onomah and Hourihane might work better, even for parts of games.

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #879 on: December 03, 2017, 12:54:19 PM »
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.
First half Blose, I am trying to point out that we are often 2 v 3 in the centre mid and Hourihane is being asked to spend more time defending.
Of course because this Is taken as  a criticism of the manager it gets jumped on by the usual suspects.
Sad we can not even debate team set up.

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #880 on: December 03, 2017, 01:00:54 PM »
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.
First half Blose, I am trying to point out that we are often 2 v 3 in the centre mid and Hourihane is being asked to spend more time defending.
Of course because this Is taken as  a criticism of the manager it gets jumped on by the usual suspects.
Sad we can not even debate team set up.

Bollocks. You get as much chance to debate as anyone else does. You've never been prevented, you've never been stopped and as for being "jumped on" it's getting a bit tiresome when the "Poor me" bit is wheeled out yet again. If you don't want anyone to ever disagree with you or if you're not happy on here, go somewhere else.

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #881 on: December 03, 2017, 01:23:20 PM »
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.
First half Blose, I am trying to point out that we are often 2 v 3 in the centre mid and Hourihane is being asked to spend more time defending.
Of course because this Is taken as  a criticism of the manager it gets jumped on by the usual suspects.
Sad we can not even debate team set up.

Bollocks. You get as much chance to debate as anyone else does. You've never been prevented, you've never been stopped and as for being "jumped on" it's getting a bit tiresome when the "Poor me" bit is wheeled out yet again. If you don't want anyone to ever disagree with you or if you're not happy on here, go somewhere else.
I was genuinely trying to have a discussion about the player on the thread and the way the manager sets the team up and said impact on the player and the team.
That’s all.

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #882 on: December 03, 2017, 01:45:51 PM »
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.

First half Sheff Weds. They had us chasing shadows.

I agree with Bronté. We have options in midfield and see Whelan as a better defensive midfielder, Omanah better deeper but with some freedom and Hourihane (and Lansbury) further up the pitch or at least going box to box. Until we get the midfield functioning to their strengths and potential we'll continue to have the 3rd best defence but only the 9th best attack. Even with our striker injuries there's plenty of goals in this side and it's something we need to improve.

It's still early days but I honestly believe once we do click we'll smashing a few teams.

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #883 on: December 03, 2017, 01:51:23 PM »
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.
First half Blose, I am trying to point out that we are often 2 v 3 in the centre mid and Hourihane is being asked to spend more time defending.
Of course because this Is taken as  a criticism of the manager it gets jumped on by the usual suspects.
Sad we can not even debate team set up.

Bollocks. You get as much chance to debate as anyone else does. You've never been prevented, you've never been stopped and as for being "jumped on" it's getting a bit tiresome when the "Poor me" bit is wheeled out yet again. If you don't want anyone to ever disagree with you or if you're not happy on here, go somewhere else.
I was genuinely trying to have a discussion about the player on the thread and the way the manager sets the team up and said impact on the player and the team.
That’s all.

And you got one.

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
« Reply #884 on: December 03, 2017, 03:06:16 PM »
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.

First half Sheff Weds. They had us chasing shadows.

I agree with Bronté. We have options in midfield and see Whelan as a better defensive midfielder, Omanah better deeper but with some freedom and Hourihane (and Lansbury) further up the pitch or at least going box to box. Until we get the midfield functioning to their strengths and potential we'll continue to have the 3rd best defence but only the 9th best attack. Even with our striker injuries there's plenty of goals in this side and it's something we need to improve.

It's still early days but I honestly believe once we do click we'll smashing a few teams.

I think our best set up in midfield would be a three with Whelan and Jedinak holding and with Onomah and Hourihane pushed further up like they were against Norwich.  The problem with that formation is when you come up against a side who also play with a holding midfielder (Brentford at home this season is a good example).  Not only did Davis get very isolated because they had a player in front of him, but Onomah and Hourihane ended up getting pushed back and Whelan ended up picking up no one. 

 


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