The Cricket Thread 2017

[taylorsworkrate]

There's talk of Stokes apparently intervening to help two guys who were receiving homophobic abuse.

If true, it still wouldn't excuse the final punch of that video, where the guy clearly is backing away and wants no part of a fight.

[Chris Jameson]

Very noble of him if that is the case but as you say the final punch was a step too far if he hadn't already, he does have previous for having a bit of a short fuse.

[dave shelley]

You can clearly hear someone continually shouting 'enough Ben' but he kept at it.  I would imagine that isn't going to go well against him.

[Risso]

You can clearly hear someone continually shouting 'enough Ben' but he kept at it.  I would imagine that isn't going to go well against him.

No, it’s like chasing burglars out of your property. If you give them a kicking half a mile down the road the seld defence motive is going to be hard to prove.

[tomd2103]

Very noble of him if that is the case but as you say the final punch was a step too far if he hadn't already, he does have previous for having a bit of a short fuse.

If Hales is the person I think he is in the video, then he stamps on and kicks someone who is on the floor.  As I say, I'm not sure he will have heard the last of it either. 

[Gareth]

Well they have both been suspended for the foreseeable so you might be right

[olaftab]

Stokes in serious trouble and more video footage now on the net where he is heard mocking Katie Price's disabled son. Not good.

[PaulWinch again]

Oh here we go it's going to be the dig everything out about Stokes now. He deserves to be punished for what he's done, but I hope this doesn't become a complete character assassination.

Now that he's almost certainly missing the Ashes, I'm definitely going with the team I picked earlier so time to call up Plunkett.

[cheltenhamlion]

From someone I know within the game, this isn't the first time Stokes has been pulled up about his "lifestyle choices".

[PaulWinch again]

No and it was an issue that was flagged up early in his career. I just hope it's this issue that's dealt with rather than dragging up everything from the past.

[tomd2103]

From someone I know within the game, this isn't the first time Stokes has been pulled up about his "lifestyle choices".

There were a number of incidents listed on TV last night.  Hadn't heard about some of them but this isn't the first incident he's been involved in. 

[cheltenhamlion]

Paul is right. He shouldn't be tried for previous misdemeanours. I was simply trying to point out that those trying to extend the "it might be this" olive branch also have to appreciate it isn't the first time he has been told to avoid this kind of scenario.

I tell my 2 year old not to touch hot things all the time. If he does it once then I will comfort him. Twice, then I can still do concerned Dad bur make clear he has been through this before and that is why I advised against it. Three times? Architect of your own downfall and no sympathy from me.

Stokes is a prat.

[Lsvilla]

It doesn’t look good at all - but some questions about the footage that has appeared surely ? This is not CCTV so someone was filming - who and where from ? With what motive ?

[Chris Jameson]

It's the nature of society these days, people get their phones out to film rather than phone the police or ambulance or even go to theaid of those being assaulted. Then of course they sell to the tabloid scum when they realise who they captured.

[paul_e]

Michael Vaughan is being a bit of a tit again on TMS.  I'm paraphrasing a bit here:

"England have 8 players who are good test players and 8 players who aren't"

a few minutes later

"the problem before was the mindset they arrived in, they need to all think they deserve to be there and have earned the right to be on the tour"

Seemingly he doesn't see how achieving the latter would be easier if people like him didn't say stuff like the former.

The only player I don't think deserves to be there is Ballance because he had his reprieve played poorly and has been poor for Yorkshire since.