Could be wrong .but guessing 2001-2 ish.Pray tell,what happened ? (Genuine question)
This is interesting: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/nov/08/english-football-tolerates-homophobia-john-amaechi-tells-mpsSurely if a Villa player was to be the first high profile pro to come out (while still playing) then we'd overwhelmingly think of that as a cause for celebration . Obviously it's difficult for the individual concerned to become a standard bearer but I think that a positive response to the first one to do it would quickly mean that more would do it?
Quote from: Sexual Ealing on November 08, 2016, 06:42:12 PMThis is interesting: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/nov/08/english-football-tolerates-homophobia-john-amaechi-tells-mpsSurely if a Villa player was to be the first high profile pro to come out (while still playing) then we'd overwhelmingly think of that as a cause for celebration . Obviously it's difficult for the individual concerned to become a standard bearer but I think that a positive response to the first one to do it would quickly mean that more would do it? Isn't being gay something natural, rather than an achievement to celebrate? A footballer's sexuality hasn't really got anything to do with the people who have come to watch them play football, it's none of our business. I'm not even sure why they might feel the need to tell us. So what, big deal - just train hard and win games.
I have faith that Villa fans would be completely supportive of any player who came out. In fact I am certain of it. We have flaws but we are a progressive bunch.
Quote from: Dave P on November 08, 2016, 08:39:51 PMQuote from: Risso on November 08, 2016, 08:34:05 PMQuote from: spk on November 08, 2016, 08:26:53 PMCould be wrong .but guessing 2001-2 ish.Pray tell,what happened ? (Genuine question)Some internet nonsense rumour about him and Will Young, and it was open season.Didn't he get sent off after about half an hour?Taken off with an "injury". Looked visibly upset from where I was sitting.
Quote from: Risso on November 08, 2016, 08:34:05 PMQuote from: spk on November 08, 2016, 08:26:53 PMCould be wrong .but guessing 2001-2 ish.Pray tell,what happened ? (Genuine question)Some internet nonsense rumour about him and Will Young, and it was open season.Didn't he get sent off after about half an hour?
Quote from: spk on November 08, 2016, 08:26:53 PMCould be wrong .but guessing 2001-2 ish.Pray tell,what happened ? (Genuine question)Some internet nonsense rumour about him and Will Young, and it was open season.
Quote from: DeKuip on November 08, 2016, 10:31:25 PMQuote from: Sexual Ealing on November 08, 2016, 06:42:12 PMThis is interesting: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/nov/08/english-football-tolerates-homophobia-john-amaechi-tells-mpsSurely if a Villa player was to be the first high profile pro to come out (while still playing) then we'd overwhelmingly think of that as a cause for celebration . Obviously it's difficult for the individual concerned to become a standard bearer but I think that a positive response to the first one to do it would quickly mean that more would do it? Isn't being gay something natural, rather than an achievement to celebrate? A footballer's sexuality hasn't really got anything to do with the people who have come to watch them play football, it's none of our business. I'm not even sure why they might feel the need to tell us. So what, big deal - just train hard and win games.Depends on why the reason they don't tell people they're gay, and (in my opinion) it's probably because they're terrified of the reactions. I mean why would you come out and then put up with the sneering, ridicule and humiliation from the homophobes? It takes a very brave person to come out, and that's what I think the poster meant when he/see said it should be a cause for celebration.
I hate the word homophobia. It may be a phobia to some, but I doubt the majority. Some people are just nasty. Lord knows what I'd call it though.
Quote from: AV82EC on November 08, 2016, 09:23:01 PMQuote from: Dave P on November 08, 2016, 08:39:51 PMQuote from: Risso on November 08, 2016, 08:34:05 PMQuote from: spk on November 08, 2016, 08:26:53 PMCould be wrong .but guessing 2001-2 ish.Pray tell,what happened ? (Genuine question)Some internet nonsense rumour about him and Will Young, and it was open season.Didn't he get sent off after about half an hour?Taken off with an "injury". Looked visibly upset from where I was sitting.Happened to Sol Campbell as well. I was threatened in the L Holte for challenging homophobic chanting