Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on October 10, 2016, 04:31:43 PMQuote from: Monty on October 10, 2016, 04:22:19 PM My problem with Bruce is that, even if we have a huge spike in enjoyment for one season and go up, we'll flatline again the next with boring, pointless, drawing football in the lower half of the Premier League.Then we sack him and get someone else, that's how it works. I'll eat my own shit if whoever comes in as our new manager lasts more than 2 years. How many current Premier League mangers have held their post for more than 2 years? I'll take Bruce to get us out of the division and worry about our Champions League prospects when we're in the right division. And there'd certainly more chance of us getting some of the big-name managers that have been mentioned on here. But hiring the right manager is a big part of establishing a lasting club infrastructure, something we have the chance to do now. It's not about our 'Champions League' prospects or other such snark - it's about trying to avoid the short-termism and footballing cavemanism that's got us into this shit already.
Quote from: Monty on October 10, 2016, 04:22:19 PM My problem with Bruce is that, even if we have a huge spike in enjoyment for one season and go up, we'll flatline again the next with boring, pointless, drawing football in the lower half of the Premier League.Then we sack him and get someone else, that's how it works. I'll eat my own shit if whoever comes in as our new manager lasts more than 2 years. How many current Premier League mangers have held their post for more than 2 years? I'll take Bruce to get us out of the division and worry about our Champions League prospects when we're in the right division. And there'd certainly more chance of us getting some of the big-name managers that have been mentioned on here.
My problem with Bruce is that, even if we have a huge spike in enjoyment for one season and go up, we'll flatline again the next with boring, pointless, drawing football in the lower half of the Premier League.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on October 10, 2016, 12:51:55 PMI'm mellowing. If it's Bruce, it's Bruce. I'll give him a chance. If he can get off to a good start, and beat those c***s from Bordesley while he's at it, he'll go a long way to winning over us doubters.Why is Bruce worse than Warnock for you?I see them as similar, get promoted - Sheffield Utd/QPR for Warnock - Blues/Hull for Bruce, and struggle in the PL - Warnock relegated Sheff Utd and got sacked from QPR - Bruce relegated Hull and eventually Blues after keeping them up for 4-5 years.
I'm mellowing. If it's Bruce, it's Bruce. I'll give him a chance. If he can get off to a good start, and beat those c***s from Bordesley while he's at it, he'll go a long way to winning over us doubters.
Chris Jameson, try page 171 Woofles the Wonder Dog's 8222nd post.
The really crucial mistake we made was in appointing McLeish.The Houllier year was bad in patches but we didn't stop trying to play football and towards the end we looked like we'd turned a corner.His health problems were a massive blow, but at that point, had we appointed someone with a degree of continuity in terms of how we were trying to play, I am convinced we'd had stayed within touch of the top six the next year.We looked like we wanted to by talking to Martinez.Only to turn around and throw all the pain of the Houllier year, and any progress made, away and appoint McLeish, who favoured a totally different type of football.That was the pivotal fucking awful decision which saw us as bottom feeders for five seasons.It was like going to a restaurant, asking for the Waldorf Salad only to be told it wasn't available ("We're out of Waldorfs") and then saying "OK, then, I'll have the banana fritter".Absolutely no continuity of thought whatsoever.
Even Nigel Adkins would be better. He did really well at Southampton and was important in helping the club get restructured, instilling an identity in their playing style etc.
Absolutely no continuity of thought whatsoever.