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Offline Zouch Villa

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2475 on: October 09, 2016, 02:20:17 PM »
That sounds like a Dr Tony Tweet!

I only wish I had half of Dr T's eloquence.  He's like the Flavor Flav of the twittersphere.

Offline Tony Erdington

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2476 on: October 09, 2016, 03:05:15 PM »
Ahhhhh, but cdbullyweefan-son, to learn how to succeed you must first learn how to fail.

Wax-on, wax-off.....

poetic

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2477 on: October 09, 2016, 03:05:58 PM »

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2478 on: October 09, 2016, 03:11:28 PM »
He's always come across as a decent man. All that will matter is whether or not he can turn us around quickly and moving in the right direction. Do that and he'll be popular with the majority of supporters.

Offline Jimbo

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2479 on: October 09, 2016, 03:16:44 PM »
Very short term, we all know what we need, and which match in particular we'd like it to happen in. If he gets that right, he can win himself a lot of goodwill from the naysayers. Balls it up and it could mean the knives come out early for him.

Offline Des Little

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2480 on: October 09, 2016, 03:20:53 PM »
Isn't it fair to say that 90% of all managerial appointments 'end in tears'? And not just ours either!

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2481 on: October 09, 2016, 03:38:50 PM »
Isn't it fair to say that 90% of all managerial appointments 'end in tears'? And not just ours either!

Ours often start in tears, followed by more tears in the middle, then end in tears.

Offline Whiney MacWhineface

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2482 on: October 09, 2016, 03:42:23 PM »
Isn't it fair to say that 90% of all managerial appointments 'end in tears'? And not just ours either!

Ours often start in tears, followed by more tears in the middle, then end in tears.

There's got to be a "wracking sobs" stage somewhere in there.

Offline johnc

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2483 on: October 09, 2016, 04:41:31 PM »
Isn't it fair to say that 90% of all managerial appointments 'end in tears'? And not just ours either!

Ours often start in tears, followed by more tears in the middle, then end in tears.
Can we make this a key post or a sticky or whatever. It seems to cover most events since  August 2010. Well done Percy

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2484 on: October 09, 2016, 04:46:57 PM »
I once worked for a construction manager that used to come into project meetings and write P-P-P-P-P-P on the board.  Prior planning prevents piss poor performance was what he drummed into us. If you don't plan for what you do when you get somewhere, you will generally fail.

There are a number of posters, like myself, that are genuinely concerned what happens when we get promoted.  Don't get me wrong, I think Bruce will get us promoted (maybe not this season unless he can put a great run together, or we hit the play-offs in top form and don't freeze in the final, as is our way in big games).

To those that say we could dump him after he gets us promotion, I ask you these questions, "what do you think will be the media reaction to sacking a successful Steve Bruce who has the usual pundit suspects supporting him, and secondly, do you really believe Villa would have the balls to do that?"

I get frustrated when posters try and stereotype other posters by saying you don't want him because of his Blues connection.  It's like saying Brexit voters are racists.  There will be some but many who are voicing concerns are the same one's that supported McLeish longer than most.

Villa seem always to lack the ability to select a manager that matches the way the Owner/Chairman wants the club to progress. The only time we seemed to get it right was with MON.  When Lerner decided to cut back on investment, he picked exactly the opposite type of manager to the type required.  Now here we are with a very ambitious owner and seemingly with finances to back the ambitions and we look to be appointing a manager that I believe does not fit in with those ambitions. Lerner had a mitigating factor in that he did not have footballing people to advise him.

We have an ideal situation to bring this club into the 21st century but it looks as though we are still living in the past.  Sometimes people in football need to take a step back and look at things from a different angle, rather than following the standard blueprint.

I have always looked a couple of steps ahead in life and planned my path accordingly.  This is why I do have concerns with Bruce becoming manager.  I hope I am wrong and it does turn out well.  I believe it is a missed opportunity but I will be supporting him, although I will give positive criticism when appropriate as always.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2485 on: October 09, 2016, 04:51:54 PM »
Isn't it fair to say that 90% of all managerial appointments 'end in tears'? And not just ours either!

Probably even more than that. A manager is either rubbish and is sacked, or does well and leaves for something bigger.

And apart from a few obvious exceptions neither of the above sees the supporters feeling happy about it.

Offline KevinGage

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2486 on: October 09, 2016, 04:52:19 PM »
Some don't like Bruce for entirely sound and valid reasons.

But setting all that aside for a minute, if he goes to Derby, do they  suddenly look a better bet for promotion? With his record, it's hard to argue they don't. Maybe not this season, but certainly next.  We have a better squad of players than them, and deeper resources. Ditto the Hull side he got up twice in recent years. 

With that in mind, I'd try very hard to park 1993, 2003, his boofball, his nan hair and all the rest of it.  I'll never forgive 1993 though.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2487 on: October 09, 2016, 04:55:17 PM »
Some don't like Bruce for entirely sound and valid reasons.

But setting all that aside for a minute, if he goes to Derby, do they  suddenly look a better bet for promotion? With his record, it's hard to argue they don't. Maybe not this season, but certainly next.  We have a better squad of players than them, and deeper resources. Ditto the Hull side he got up twice in recent years. 

While you're likely correct, exactly the same was said about Pearson. Some people even said that everyone else was playing for third place behind Newcastle and Derby.

Offline russon

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2488 on: October 09, 2016, 04:56:40 PM »
Time to stop pussy footing around and get Bruce in. Never mind his 'pedigree' in terms of Bluenosery, let's just get this revival started for pity's sake. We'll have to call him shallot head instead given all the weight he's lost, if only Gabby had the same dietician.

Offline KevinGage

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2489 on: October 09, 2016, 04:59:02 PM »
Aye, a few people did say that. 

Plenty more said he was a psycho and it would all end in tears.  One of the (frankly odd) reasons for selecting him was he'd end up chinning Gabby, Richards and co.

Credit to him this time, he kept his hands off the players and only tried to chin the chairman.

 


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