Next Villa manager

[cdbearsfan]

Hardly any of our appointments have been "gambles". We've nearly always gone with people who have experience of the division we happen to be in.

We are in a far better position than the other teams you mentioned Clampster, as we have a better squad and loads of money.

We should be looking to appoint somebody that will have the rest of the league moaning about how unfair it is that we can appoint him. There won't be a single fan of any team in this division worrying about the prospect of us appointing Steve Bruce. Well, except Villa fans.

[ciggiesnbeer]

The team enjoyed pretty much unwavering support in the first few games of the season and were still shite.

If having a loud, vocal support made any difference then Arsenal would be in the Conference and Barcelona would be in Catalan League 5.

Truth bomb megaton.

[Clampy]

Hardly any of our appointments have been "gambles". We've nearly always gone with people who have experience of the division we happen to be in.

We are in a far better position than the other teams you mentioned Clampster, as we have a better squad and loads of money.

We should be looking to appoint somebody that will have the rest of the league moaning about how unfair it is that we can appoint him. There won't be a single fan of any team in this division worrying about the prospect of us appointing Steve Bruce. Well, except Villa fans.

Garde was a gamble and Sherwood hadn't been in management long before we got him in.

Like Jimbo said, a reality check is needed.

[Monty]

I think we're stable now, as in I don't think we'll go down from this division and we're very mediocre. I think we need something a bit more exceptional to change the club, rather than yet more plodding.

Basically, I don't want this club stabilised in the image of Bruce. I think that'll do us more harm than good.

[cdbearsfan]

Hardly any of our appointments have been "gambles". We've nearly always gone with people who have experience of the division we happen to be in.

We are in a far better position than the other teams you mentioned Clampster, as we have a better squad and loads of money.

We should be looking to appoint somebody that will have the rest of the league moaning about how unfair it is that we can appoint him. There won't be a single fan of any team in this division worrying about the prospect of us appointing Steve Bruce. Well, except Villa fans.

Garde was a gamble and Sherwood hadn't been in management long before we got him in.

Like Jimbo said, a reality check is needed.

Sherwood was quite clearly a mental appointment. There is a World of difference between limiting ourselves to boring appointments and going for someone with about five months' managerial experience.

Getting a top boss from abroad, with a proven record of winning, would be far less of a gamble than Steve Bruce who has been sacked forty-six times.

I think the doom-mongers need a "reality check".

Feel free to list all the other teams in our league who can match our spending.

We should be looking to appoint the very best available, not going for a so-so manager that would be considered underwhelming by fans of dross like Sheffield Wednesday if they appointed him.

[Clampy]

Hardly any of our appointments have been "gambles". We've nearly always gone with people who have experience of the division we happen to be in.

We are in a far better position than the other teams you mentioned Clampster, as we have a better squad and loads of money.

We should be looking to appoint somebody that will have the rest of the league moaning about how unfair it is that we can appoint him. There won't be a single fan of any team in this division worrying about the prospect of us appointing Steve Bruce. Well, except Villa fans.

Garde was a gamble and Sherwood hadn't been in management long before we got him in.

Like Jimbo said, a reality check is needed.

Sherwood was quite clearly a mental appointment. There is a World of difference between limiting ourselves to boring appointments and going for someone with about five months' managerial experience.

Getting a top boss from abroad, with a proven record of winning, would be far less of a gamble than Steve Bruce who has been sacked forty-six times.

I think the doom-mongers need a "reality check".

Feel free to list all the other teams in our league who can match our spending.

We should be looking to appoint the very best available, not going for a so-so manager that would be considered underwhelming by fans of dross like Sheffield Wednesday if they appointed him.

People are 'doom-mongers' because they have a different opinion to you? Yes, thanks for that.

[cdbearsfan]

It's not really any different to you saying that people who disagree with you need a "reality check". In fact, it was quite clearly a direct response to that patronising line.

[Clampy]

It's not really any different to you saying that people who disagree with you need a "reality check". In fact, it was quite clearly a direct response to that patronising line.

I meant a reality check for the club as a whole. I didn't lower myself to calling other fans 'doom-mongers'.

[kippaxvilla2]

I can see why other clubs perceive us as deluded and arrogant at times.  We've just been effectively told that the Bristol City and Huddersfield managers don't want to swap their current positions for 'big spending' Aston Villa.  Jesus we need to wake up to the fact that we're just not very good or stable at the minute.  Bruce is the steady type we need at the minute not Venglos type gambles.

[Monty]

I can see why other clubs perceive us as deluded and arrogant at times.  We've just been effectively told that the Bristol City and Huddersfield managers don't want to swap their current positions for 'big spending' Aston Villa.  Jesus we need to wake up to the fact that we're just not very good or stable at the minute.  Bruce is the steady type we need at the minute not Venglos type gambles.

Yes, because every manager from abroad is Dr Jo 26 years ago.

[cdbearsfan]

It's not really any different to you saying that people who disagree with you need a "reality check". In fact, it was quite clearly a direct response to that patronising line.

I meant a reality check for the club as a whole. I didn't lower myself to calling other fans 'doom-mongers'.

Alright then, fair enough. It came across differently in my head!

I still don't think we need a "reality check" though. We should be aiming for the very best available. To me, that's not Steve Bruce  (let alone Steve fucking Clarke).

[Clampy]

It's not really any different to you saying that people who disagree with you need a "reality check". In fact, it was quite clearly a direct response to that patronising line.

I meant a reality check for the club as a whole. I didn't lower myself to calling other fans 'doom-mongers'.

Alright then, fair enough. It came across differently in my head!

I still don't think we need a "reality check" though. We should be aiming for the very best available. To me, that's not Steve Bruce  (let alone Steve fucking Clarke).

Who do you suggest out of interest?

[cdbearsfan]

Who do you suggest out of interest?

From a few pages back...

As for who. Dunno. There is a whole World out there, and we are one of the biggest and richest clubs in it. Dr Xia should be going all out to convince the right candidate that our current position is an aberration, and that he will provide the funding for us to compete at the highest level

Bielsa, Mancini, the Villa-supporting Italian bloke everyone was touting last time, Girard. If we have to go closer to home  (I don't see why we do, but still), then Brendan Rodgers would be a good shout.

[kippaxvilla2]

It's all about right man, right time though isn't it?  We tried Garde at the wrong time and that was an unmitigated disaster.  Maybe Bielsa and those those types are for another day.  But right now, hard nosed, gritty, fighting spirit is what we need.  That at least is more or less guaranteed under Bruce.

[paul_e]

No people are doom mongers because they seem determined to make the club out as being the worst club ever which no decent manager would look at and therefore we should just accept anyone who doesn't run away screaming.

Bruce is the type of lazy, predictable appointment that you'd expect us to have made under Lerner. He was the first name on a "who's out of work and has worked in this league before" list. I thought Sherwood was a mistake because it was unimaginative and Bruce is just the same.

He won't get us promoted this season but probably could get us up next year but by then we'll have had transfer windows of him signing the sort of shit he has at every club and I'd have no faith in that meaning we had a squaf capable of staying up.