Next Villa manager

[paul_e]

Sherwood 'did a job' but then instead of doing the sensible thing (like Tottenham did) and fucking him off for someone who could setup a team for the season we let him condemn us.  That's what I mean about 'do a job' style appointments.  You have to be so careful to not let that job become another one that they're not suited for.

Tom I think you're absolutely right on the cricket analogy and what's interesting is that we had a fair few captains, coaches and selectors but that same fragile, out of date mindset just wouldn't shift.  It was when we picked a captain who wasn't suited for the test side (because he was too aggressive) and an arrogant sod as coach and let them build their own team that things started to shift and we now have a genuinely fantastic ODI side.  That's the complete mentality change that I'm talking about.

[LukeJames]

Sherwood 'did a job' but then instead of doing the sensible thing (like Tottenham did) and fucking him off for someone who could setup a team for the season we let him condemn us.  That's what I mean about 'do a job' style appointments.  You have to be so careful to not let that job become another one that they're not suited for.

Bang on!

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

Just read this headline on the Gurniard website:
"Klopp: the ‘energy giver’ who made Liverpool believe again. The German was appointed a year ago on Saturday and his combination of bear hugs, honesty and discipline has changed the atmosphere at the club"
This is the level of change that is required - we just need to find someone that can provide it.

I agree completely, now try to imagine Bruce coming in and changing the entire culture of the club like that.  That's the point we need someone with that forceful personality and huge self-confidence who can kick the club back on track.

If we're 1-0 up with 10 minutes we should, as a club and fanbase, know that we've got it in the bag, right now we know we'll find a way to fuck it up and that's through all levels of the club, that negative belief undermines everything else.

Personally I don't have a problem with Bruce, he's a good manager. But it's often been said that he can "do a job". I want to see more than that. The state that we are in we need a transformation and I don't think that Bruce and some others that have been mentioned can affect a club as much as managers like Pochettino, Eddie Howe and Klopp have affected their clubs. But as I said, we have to find that person - is he on the list?

Yeah but we haven't had a manager even 'do a job' since MON over 6 years ago.

Sherwood did a job - kept us up and even exceeded expectations by getting us to a cup final. But he wasn't the man for the long term

[claret+blue ed]

Dean smith deserves a go, done his apprenticeship at smaller clubs and continues to do well, would be nice to have a manager on the way up, the being a villa fan is a bonus, but it will give him time to overhaul things as we won't be on his back as quickly

[saunders_heroes]

Shearer has said that Bruce has talked to the club.

Oh god no!

[andyh]

Dean smith deserves a go, done his apprenticeship at smaller clubs and continues to do well, would be nice to have a manager on the way up, the being a villa fan is a bonus, but it will give him time to overhaul things as we won't be on his back as quickly

I don't think he 'deserves at go' at taking the reigns at the Villa on the back what he has done so far.


 
 

[Chico Hamilton III]

Shearer has said that Bruce has talked to the club.

Oh god no!

Shearer was playing golf with him at the time.

[Diablo]

At this rate we'll need someone like warnock just to keep us up!

Talk of the devil. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37579406

He's got 7 career promotions and is on his 8th (which would be an all time record).

[cdward]

The problem with appointing a manager to do "a job", is that when the job is completed, like with Sherwood and keeping us up, people then start saying "give him a chance, look at what a great job he did".

[saunders_heroes]

Shearer has said that Bruce has talked to the club.

Oh god no!

Shearer was playing golf with him at the time.

Desperate times at Villa having that lump as manager. At best all he ever gives you is a very short term success based on turgid depressing football which is quickly followed by the inevitable decline and then he exits. Bruce at Villa, what a depressing thought.

[villadelph]

Shearer has said that Bruce has talked to the club.

Oh god no!

Talks don't always go well.

[saunders_heroes]

Shearer has said that Bruce has talked to the club.

Oh god no!

Talks don't always go well.

Fingers crossed!

[Toronto Villa]

Shearer has said that Bruce has talked to the club.

Oh god no!

Shearer was playing golf with him at the time.

Desperate times at Villa having that lump as manager. At best all he ever gives you is a very short term success based on turgid depressing football which is quickly followed by the inevitable decline and then he exits. Bruce at Villa, what a depressing thought.

What is this word "success" you speak of?

[Monty]

If Steve Round is impressed by people like Wagner my impression is that someone like Bruce would have to do very, very well to make a good impression. Or at least I hope so.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

If Steve Round is impressed by people like Wagner my impression is that someone like Bruce would have to do very, very well to make a good impression. Or at least I hope so.

Former Villa director, David Bernstein has also been singing the praises of Wagner, being "extremely impressed". On the downside he says that Bruce is the only other real option. I hope Round is doing his homework and finds alternatives out there. It's a massive decision on so many levels.