Barnsley v Villa predictable post match thread

[Stu]

Can't see RDM getting another decent job if he fluffs the chance he's had with Villa. The money and infrastructure this club has got and he can't organise the team.

[KevinGage]

Aston Villa: consistently gutless

[Toronto Villa]

I would genuinely take Steve Bruce right now.

Me too.
Or Rowett.

The position is cursed. Whoever we appoint will fail. We turned Paul Lambert into a hot managerial prospect into a failure that ended his career resembling a tramp. Garde went from a bright eyed smiling prospect to being completely destroyed. Now RDM is appearing unshaven and a beaten man. The one thing that might work for Bruce is that as he proceeds to fail as our manager he'd lose a load of weight.

[TonyD]

Garde went through the motions and picked up his salary.
I think RDM is the same.   

[The Left Side]

Can't see RDM getting another decent job if he fluffs the chance he's had with Villa. The money and infrastructure this club has got and he can't organise the team.

How many managers have gone onto bigger and better things after leaving/be fired by the Villa... SGT mk1?

[Jimbo]

Aston Villa: consistently gutless

This conceding late goals thing. It's not just this season is it? That's the worrying thing. It's reached a new low, but it's been going on for fucking years.

[PeterWithesShin]

Can't see RDM getting another decent job if he fluffs the chance he's had with Villa. The money and infrastructure this club has got and he can't organise the team.

How many managers have gone onto bigger and better things after leaving/be fired by the Villa... SGT mk1?

Mercer.

MON might try and claim being manager of Ireland is a step up I suppose.

[not3bad]

Every brand needs a USP, ours is shipping late goals. It'll be all the rage in China next year...

The Beijing Casuals will demand it every game.

[Chris Smith]

Where are the leaders on the pitch? I thought that is what we were getting by going for experienced players in the spine of the team. There is little a manager can during those late minutes, it is up to those on the pitch to show some bottle and not let it keep happening. Before anyone starts, I am not trying to absolve the manager of responsibility but the players also really need to look at themselves and question why it keeps happening. If it doesn't change then the manager will inevitably pay the price but the mental fragility that allows this to happen can only be changed from within.

[ktvillan]

Can't see RDM getting another decent job if he fluffs the chance he's had with Villa. The money and infrastructure this club has got and he can't organise the team.

How many managers have gone onto bigger and better things after leaving/be fired by the Villa... SGT mk1?

Mercer.

MON might try and claim being manager of Ireland is a step up I suppose.

Docherty?

[KevinGage]

There was a time when the Villa job was genuinely attractive.

Managers of all abilities (and some with none) wanted it, and wanted to make their mark in the club's history. Clough, Taylor, Atkinson, Svennis -whoever.

DOL was the first in my lifetime who looked like he had come to coast. Good first season, not so good second season.  Pick up the cheque and just phone it in.

Since then -apart from O'Neill (and maybe McLeish) I get the feeling that the payoff for failure is more attractive than the prospect of actually cracking it.

[PeterWithe]

Where are the leaders on the pitch? I thought that is what we were getting by going for experienced players in the spine of the team. There is little a manager can during those late minutes, it is up to those on the pitch to show some bottle and not let it keep happening. Before anyone starts, I am not trying to absolve the manager of responsibility but the players also really need to look at themselves and question why it keeps happening. If it doesn't change then the manager will inevitably pay the price but the mental fragility that allows this to happen can only be changed from within.

But shouldn't the manager be responsible for making sure that the players are both physically and mentally prepared for the game, it doesn't seem to matter if we are playing Man Utd or Macclesfield, they'd both fancy themselves to overturn a deficit in the last few minutes. If RDM can't overcome these mental barriers then let's try someone else. Or an exorcist.

[Percy McCarthy]

I would genuinely take Steve Bruce right now.

He might have a better offer...

[ajmant]

Balance between knee jerk reaction and considered approach has gone. One in ten. FFS. I hate changing manager but really, id say he bought them, he lives or dies by them and RDM, not good enough.

[Chris Smith]

Where are the leaders on the pitch? I thought that is what we were getting by going for experienced players in the spine of the team. There is little a manager can during those late minutes, it is up to those on the pitch to show some bottle and not let it keep happening. Before anyone starts, I am not trying to absolve the manager of responsibility but the players also really need to look at themselves and question why it keeps happening. If it doesn't change then the manager will inevitably pay the price but the mental fragility that allows this to happen can only be changed from within.

But shouldn't the manager be responsible for making sure that the players are both physically and mentally prepared for the game, it doesn't seem to matter if we are playing Man Utd or Macclesfield, they'd both fancy themselves to overturn a deficit in the last few minutes. If RDM can't overcome these mental barriers then let's try someone else. Or an exorcist.

As I said I am not making excuses for him but the experienced players should be taking the responsibility on the pitch during this last few minutes. These are men with hundred of games under their belts and they should be leading the younger players by example yet I see no evidence of it.