Dr T has pulled the trigger

[paul_e]

All that really does though is show how badly he fucked things up after that for most of us to not be all that shocked that he's gone.  That's the problem for me, we looked very good against Forest and his response was to completely change the shape of the team and remove all our attacking threat and we've put in about 45 minutes of acceptable performance since.

[ASHTONVILLA]

All that really does though is show how badly he fucked things up after that for most of us to not be all that shocked that he's gone.  That's the problem for me, we looked very good against Forest and his response was to completely change the shape of the team and remove all our attacking threat and we've put in about 45 minutes of acceptable performance since.

That Preston performance did for him, it was dire. A bit like Coventry under BFR when we played that badly he had to go.

[paul_e]

All that really does though is show how badly he fucked things up after that for most of us to not be all that shocked that he's gone.  That's the problem for me, we looked very good against Forest and his response was to completely change the shape of the team and remove all our attacking threat and we've put in about 45 minutes of acceptable performance since.

That Preston performance did for him, it was dire. A bit like Coventry under BFR when we played that badly he had to go.

It was certainly the one that tipped me over from wanting to give him until the end of November to turn things around to thinking he could go on the final whistle for all I cared.

[preston28]

All that really does though is show how badly he fucked things up after that for most of us to not be all that shocked that he's gone.  That's the problem for me, we looked very good against Forest and his response was to completely change the shape of the team and remove all our attacking threat and we've put in about 45 minutes of acceptable performance since.

That Preston performance did for him, it was dire. A bit like Coventry under BFR when we played that badly he had to go.

That Preston performance did for me too!  I think I may develop PTSD after that. The worst performance I ythink I had ever seen from the Villa!

[oldhill_avfc]

Can't get too worked about RDM as a manager  going.   Bad luck or poor tactics - probably a mixture of both as always.  But in it's general portents its alarming.

To back a manager with £50m and then only give him 12 matches means either you've got a good replacement lined up (ie not one of the usual serial underachievers - see Potato Head) or the policy from now on is going to be Abramovich-esque.

I can't see it's the former and the latter will end in tears.

[pauliewalnuts]

All that really does though is show how badly he fucked things up after that for most of us to not be all that shocked that he's gone.  That's the problem for me, we looked very good against Forest and his response was to completely change the shape of the team and remove all our attacking threat and we've put in about 45 minutes of acceptable performance since.

That's my take on it too.

Didn't we have 29 shots against Forest? Somehow that turned to about 3 against Preston.

[aj2k77]

Those late goals killed him, he lost his bottle and didn't have faith in his system of play. That's why I feel we need a confident, headstrong experienced personality with a style of play that he believes in. Another young manager I think we will kill off, another chancer will just second guess himself again ala Di Matteo and Sherwood.

[themossman]

To a degree yes he was unlucky with results (forest game etc.) But that's sort of a moot point because when things aren't going your way (due to luck or any other reason) the players need to look at the manager and think that guy can fix it. Our rapid deterioration in the last few games suggests he didn't show the kind of leadership required to get them fired up for the next game and playing without the weight of the world on them.

[CT Villan]

When the same bad things happen repeatedly, luck has nothing to do with it...it becomes more about ability and judgement (or lack thereof).

[brian green]

RDM cannot say he was not warned.  Tony tweeted his feelings before the Preston game "@jusFukinWIN".  No poncey fake vote of confidence from our owner.  He takes no prisoners.  Nor should he, the money he has stumped up.

[Gregorys Boy]

Its a little scary that this thread was started nearly a month ago!

Gotta agree that the performance Saturday was a big factor in setting alarm bells ringing.  Would have given him a bit longer but I can understand the call and am not sad about it.  We just need to get the right man now and give him the time and support he needs.  Out of the available options I think Bruce would make the most sense.

[paul_e]

I think the important thing is when you've turned it from nearly clicking, someone will get a beating soon into barely registering a shot the last thing you need is to put in a car crash performance before an international break.  take that away and I think he survives a few more weeks  but with a fair few of ours going away for a week or so this is as 'safe' a time as any to be without a manager.

[London Villan]

I wonder if any if Dr T's motivational talks and getting involved in the dressing room has caused any issues?

[Toronto Villa]

All that really does though is show how badly he fucked things up after that for most of us to not be all that shocked that he's gone.  That's the problem for me, we looked very good against Forest and his response was to completely change the shape of the team and remove all our attacking threat and we've put in about 45 minutes of acceptable performance since.

That's my take on it too.

Didn't we have 29 shots against Forest? Somehow that turned to about 3 against Preston.

we needed to find a way to keep the 29 shots, score from more of them, and when in the lead shut down the game in the last 10 minutes. And instead after having blown another late lead to Brentford we left Portman Road without having a shot on target. It was a true WTF moment.

[villadelph]

I wonder if any if Dr T's motivational talks and getting involved in the dressing room has caused any issues?

An owner that barely speaks English shouldn't feel responsible to rile up the squad. If I bought a Chinese Super League team and had to step in front of my Manager and deliver a team talk he would be gone that day.